undo last command (s)
can that be added to the menu please?
Can 'Undo' be added to the menu please?
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Hello, Trast.
If it were that simple then Undo last action would have been added to the menu a long time ago, and very likely there would be an internal command cm_UndoLastAction.
Yet, life is not that simple. There are actions which might be reverted like e.g. renaming. There are actions which can be undone most of the time already today like e.g. deleting objects to the recycle bin.
But, how are you going to undo a copy operation e.g. in the not so unlikely case that you have overwritten older files having the same filenames in the target folder?
To cut it short:
The questions related to "Undo or No undo and what can be undone" have been discussed more than once and in a controverse way in the past in this forum. The forum search should reveal at least some of these discussion threads.
The essence so far is that the programme author is more than sceptical that offering a general Undo function will do any good. I.e. little chances of seeing the requested menu item in the (near) future, if ever.
Kind regards,
Karl
If it were that simple then Undo last action would have been added to the menu a long time ago, and very likely there would be an internal command cm_UndoLastAction.
Yet, life is not that simple. There are actions which might be reverted like e.g. renaming. There are actions which can be undone most of the time already today like e.g. deleting objects to the recycle bin.
But, how are you going to undo a copy operation e.g. in the not so unlikely case that you have overwritten older files having the same filenames in the target folder?
To cut it short:
The questions related to "Undo or No undo and what can be undone" have been discussed more than once and in a controverse way in the past in this forum. The forum search should reveal at least some of these discussion threads.
The essence so far is that the programme author is more than sceptical that offering a general Undo function will do any good. I.e. little chances of seeing the requested menu item in the (near) future, if ever.
Kind regards,
Karl
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There is currently Undo in two places:
1. The multi-rename tool: Since it never overwrites any files, Undo can be done reliably
2. When you delete to recycle bin with TC8, or when using the Explorer method in TC 7.x, you can Undo by right clicking on the Windows desktop and choosing "Undo".
1. The multi-rename tool: Since it never overwrites any files, Undo can be done reliably
2. When you delete to recycle bin with TC8, or when using the Explorer method in TC 7.x, you can Undo by right clicking on the Windows desktop and choosing "Undo".
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Explorer can undo renaming of a single file, undo copying or moving files. It would be great to see these options in the TC.
Desctop - is good. But would like to make Undo deleting fron TC command.you can Undo by right clicking on the Windows desktop and choosing "Undo".
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Sorry, I will not offer undo in cases where there is no guarantee that it will work. In all the above cases (rename, copy, move), Undo isn't possible if any files get overwritten.
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I know this is an old thread, but it's been a recurring theme throughout the years and there doesn't seem to be a good case against it, so just laying out some thoughts why it's a good idea even if it's not perfect/universal (you might've created files in place, so undo can overwrite them or you can't undo shift-delete") and "I have never had so far a need for an UNDO, so I have voted NO" (yeah, what about those who have?)
Say, Undo "Move to Recycle Bin" is a very useful feature that allows to cut down on the annoying number of confirmation boxes you have to click through. The thing is you make a mistake infrequently relative to the total number of delete operations. So it's much better to have a convenient immediate undo feature in say 10% of cases when you mistakenly deleted something rather than confirming delete in the 100% of cases. Warning should only be reserved for operations you can't recover from (e.g. Shift-Delete).
Basically, I'd argue that a useful feature shouldn't be rejected on the grounds that it's not "perfect" and can't right all the user mistakes. Not asking for that, a correction of a specific subset of user mistakes would still be fine. Hopefully you'd reconsider.
That's not a universal IF. In most cases you realize you've made a mistake right away, so would like to quickly revert it. And it'd be perfectly fine for the Undo operation to just abort/not start/not complete with a warning if it finds some conflicts. It would still be very useful in the majority of the cases when there are no additional changes that would conflict with Undo.ghisler(Author) wrote:Sorry, I will not offer undo in cases where there is no guarantee that it will work. In all the above cases (rename, copy, move), Undo isn't possible if any files get overwritten.
Say, Undo "Move to Recycle Bin" is a very useful feature that allows to cut down on the annoying number of confirmation boxes you have to click through. The thing is you make a mistake infrequently relative to the total number of delete operations. So it's much better to have a convenient immediate undo feature in say 10% of cases when you mistakenly deleted something rather than confirming delete in the 100% of cases. Warning should only be reserved for operations you can't recover from (e.g. Shift-Delete).
Basically, I'd argue that a useful feature shouldn't be rejected on the grounds that it's not "perfect" and can't right all the user mistakes. Not asking for that, a correction of a specific subset of user mistakes would still be fine. Hopefully you'd reconsider.