[Bug or question] Why to add at the end?

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[Bug or question] Why to add at the end?

Post by *XPEHOPE3KA »

Go to Options->Layout->Display->Help texts. Tick everything there and press the Plus button. There when configuring a tooltip and adding a new field it is added at the end, while most users expect it to be added at the cursor place.

Can anyone explain WHY? It isn't comfortable at all.
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Not Confirmed.

New definition is placed directly below the actual cursor position.
Also it's comfortable IMO, because you can reorder this very simple using drag&drop or SHIFT+UP/DOWN.

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He means adding new content plugins in the "Custom fields by file type" box.

Anyway, I am not sure what most users expect here. The present state at least guarantees that the added string can always be found with ease after adding it. If you add a string without having correctly positioned your cursor before, you probably have to waste time examing the string in Notepad to find the position at which you have added it.

The problem here is that the box in which you can add the string is way too small.

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Post by *Lefteous »

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The problem here is that the box in which you can add the string is way too small. It should be an editbox instead.
Well it actually _is_ an editbox. ;-)
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That's why I have removed it. What I wanted to say was edit control, like the one that pops up when editing descript.ion for example.

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Post by *XPEHOPE3KA »

I'm starting to want a switch for that. :roll:

And I have never seen a user expecting this default behaviour. Everyone was surprised at the first time.
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Post by *Lefteous »

Somewhere else I suggested something like this:

The current tooltip config has some problems. Here is another approach:

Current problems:
- Tooltip is represented as a single line (most important point). It almost impossible to retain an overview.
- Before adding a field the user has to type a caption for each field. Without a caption it's just data not an information.

My idea:
- Display a simple listbox which represents the tooltip much better
- When adding a field to a new line TC automatically prepends "FIELDNAME: " to the field.
- Remove button removes the currently selected line(s).
- Edit button let's the user manually edit the line (inline editing).
- Reordering using drag/drop or shift key as in many TC dialogs

http://www.lefteous.de/tc/images/suggestions/tooltip_config.png

In my opinion the suggested dialog is still simple but more usable than the current one.
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I vote for a modifier key to be able to add at default cursor position, like "hold down Ctrl" when pressing OK.

@Lefteous:
Yep, this looks exactly like it should be done.

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Yep, this looks exactly like it should be done.
Agree.
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Post by *HolgerK »

icfu wrote:He means adding new content plugins in the "Custom fields by file type" box.
Sorry, I missed the point. :oops:
Lefteous wrote:...
http://www.lefteous.de/tc/images/suggestions/tooltip_config.png

In my opinion the suggested dialog is still simple but more usable than the current one.
I totally agree.

Even a dialog like the Edit Custom Columns dialog, where the meaning of columns is replaced with lines, would be better.

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