Quick Search & Quick Filter

[Postkutscher]

So looks option dialog now, it is sufficienty wide.

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Quick Search (Current Dir)

O Ctrl+Alt+Letters
O Alt+Letters
x Letters only
O Letters with search dialog
O Disabled

So can it look, if mr. Ghisler will consider this suggestion.

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Quick Search (Current Dir)            Quick Filter (Current Dir)

O Ctrl+Alt+Letters                    O Ctrl+Alt+Letters
O Alt+Letters                         x Alt+Letters
x Letters only                        O Letters only      
O Letters with search dialog          O Letters with filter dialog 
O Disabled                            O Disabled

I think it is more flexible and comfortable than hardcoded ctrl+s.

[fenix_productions]

2Postkutscher
I think it's too much for average users because they might not understand where is the difference. Your solution could mislead them telling that there are two separate features (not one with two types of behaviour).

Also I wonder what would happen if you chose same option twice?

[Postkutscher]

2fenix_productions
A messagebox should appear "You cannot use the same condition to start both features simultaneously, please change one of the conditions. [OK]". Or better they can be binded with simple logic as it is now when you are selecting creation of sfv,md5,sha checksums.

btw. I am not agree with you. These are really different features although they can be used for similar mission, but based on this similarity they should be groupped as it is shown. I see no problem here.

[fenix_productions]

2Postkutscher
Sorry for being hostile

I understand that some automation would be nice but I am still thinking it's overcomplicated. Hard-coded solution is not the best one but it's harder to get something better than this.

2fenix_productions
A messagebox should appear "You cannot use the same condition to start both features simultaneously, please change one of the conditions. [OK]". Or better they can be binded with simple logic as it is now when you are selecting creation of sfv,md5,sha checksums.

We can also grey out (disable) opposite option but next question appears: what about other options which intercepts themselves ("Letters only" and "Letters with filter dialog" chosen together). That would either mean need for additional "prioritizing" option or disabling more of them. I afraid that following that thought we could end up with complicated setup for something not much better than current solution.

[Postkutscher]

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Quick Search(QS) & Quick Filter(QF,with dialog) within current directory 

O QS Alt+Letters         QF Ctrl+S
O QS Ctrl+Alt+Letters    QF Ctrl+S               
O QS Ctrl+Alt+Letters    QF Alt+Letters               
O QS Alt+Letters         QF Ctrl+Alt+Letters                      
O QS Letters only        QF Ctrl+Alt+Letters     
x QS Letters only        QF Alt+Letters   
O QS Letters only        QF Ctrl+S                  
O Disabled

Ok. How about this? It`s simple

[fenix_productions]

2Postkutscher
I'll rest my case (you killed me) and simply use Ctrl+S

[jjk]

Despite of fenix_productions' remarks, I like the proposal of Postkutscher.
I don''t know currently how to avoid the misunderstanding by novices, but for me I'd like type Alt-letter instead of Ctrl-S + letter

[sqa_wizard]

and simply use Ctrl+S

I fully agree : Quick Search has different modes, Quick Filter has 1 only

... 1 function 1 shortcut, no need to change anything, just keep it simple !

[fenix_productions]

I don''t know currently how to avoid the misunderstanding by novices, but for me I'd like type Alt-letter instead of Ctrl-S + letter

You don't need Ctrl+S if you set QuickSearchAutoFilter=2 in your windcm.ini.

[jjk]

You don't need Ctrl+S if you set QuickSearchAutoFilter=2 in your windcm.ini.

Yes I know it. But I want, in the same session, sometimes have QSF on, sometimes off. So I like :
- letter for QS no filter
and
- Alt letter for QS filter
It would be very simple. No Ctrl-S, but at any time I know what I do.
Of course, no defiance against anyone here.
What I mean is it would be good to have this extra option.
Best regards

[ouzoWTF]

I would like to see that too.

[Postkutscher]

2sqa_wizard
2fenix_productions
I can`t understand your opposition, so far it is not suggested to break existing functionality. As for me, ctrl+s can stay "unoffable", but this hardcoded hotkey is insufficient and must be complemented as it was suggested above or at least with a new internal command, which can be redefined then. The point is, as jjk said, that both methods (goto and filter) can be used in the same session in a merited way and without changing of configuration.

[fenix_productions]

2Postkutscher
My "opposition" is just not to make thing more complicated than it's needed.

I know that some people could understand it easily but I think that most of average users will be lost.

[Postkutscher]

Well, if someone cannot understand one radiobutton block, which is indeed already there, just a little shorter, he will use the default setting, it might be sufficient for him.

2fenix_productions
Are you really think, that one another "hidden" key in wincmd.ini would be better? If so, I could satisfy with it , but it looks like open to criticism solution.

[fenix_productions]

2Postkutscher
It's not just "one radio button block". It is always easier to explain that you have QuickSearch which can filter files than saying that you have two different features, with different names which looks and behave almost the same.

Although if it would be presented as hidden INI option it could be OK.

BTW I can't get from my mind strange thought that it would be discussed in the same way if someone ask for similar feature for copying files (explorer vs. TC method).