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[TC 8.0ß9 x86] Filter is lost after switching to another tab

Posted: 2011-11-22, 21:35 UTC
by AndrewCreator
Test for x64 is welcome.

Steps to reproduce:
1) Open dir.
2) Filter some results (QuickSearchAutoFilter=1).
3) Open one more tab.
4) Close newly opened tab.
5) Filter will be lost.

Expected behaviour:
Filter remains.

Inconveniences caused:
Should apply the same filter multiply times what is uncomfortable on slow network folders.

Posted: 2011-11-24, 14:53 UTC
by ghisler(Author)
This is intentional, sorry. Only the permanent filter (Ctrl+F12 or menu Show - Custom) is saved, but not the temporary quick search filter.

Posted: 2011-11-28, 15:48 UTC
by AndrewCreator
Thank you for the answer. Could you tell why this is intentional? Is there any use-case when this matters?

Also I would like to admit that filter is lost even if switching to another tab and back in the same panel. But it remains if you switch to another tab in the second panel.

Posted: 2011-11-30, 15:55 UTC
by ghisler(Author)
The problem is that you don't see what is being filtered out with the temporary filter - only a small filter icon is shown. You wouldn't remember a filter on a different tab set 3 weeks ago.

Posted: 2011-11-30, 16:47 UTC
by AndrewCreator
Oh, I caught misunderstanding reason. I should describe the problem with a bit more details.

I open tab1 and filter some results.
Then I open tab2.
I expect that tab1 filter remains on tab1 and I will see it when I switch back to tab1.

So, the filtered results should remain on the tab until the filter is changed or tab is closed.

Posted: 2011-11-30, 19:41 UTC
by Samuel
Oh, I caught misunderstanding reason. I should describe the problem with a bit more details.

I open tab1 and filter some results.
Then I open tab2.
I expect that tab1 filter remains on tab1 and I will see it when I switch back to tab1.

So, the filtered results should remain on the tab until the filter is changed or tab is closed.
I think this is exactly what Christian did understand.

The problem he refers too is:
1) I open tab1 and filter some results.
2) Then I open tab2.
3) I work a hour or more on tab2
4) I come back to tab1, overlook the small icon and I cannot find several files.

I partly agree (perhaps it could be an option) because the filter icon is very small. IMO the path bar should be colored red if there are any active filters. Because currently the small icon is easy to overlook.

Posted: 2011-11-30, 21:55 UTC
by AndrewCreator
Samuel

I think that at least current behaviour is inconsistent.

1) You open tab1 and filter some results.
2) Then you open new TC instance.
3) You work an hour or more in new instance.
4) You come back to tab1, overlook the small icon and cannot find several files.

Posted: 2011-11-30, 21:59 UTC
by Samuel
AndrewCreator wrote:Samuel

I think that at least current behaviour is inconsistent.

1) You open tab1 and filter some results.
2) Then you open new TC instance.
3) You work an hour or more in new instance.
4) You come back to tab1, overlook the small icon and cannot find several files.
I agree. See my quote:
Samuel wrote:I partly agree (perhaps it could be an option) because the filter icon is very small. IMO the path bar should be colored red if there are any active filters. Because currently the small icon is easy to overlook.

Posted: 2011-11-30, 22:56 UTC
by AndrewCreator
Samuel

So the filter in tab should remain as it remains when we open new TC instance. At least there should be an option.

Path bar might be colored (only as option).

Posted: 2011-12-01, 00:04 UTC
by Samuel
IMO no. Its about probabilities.

Posted: 2011-12-01, 00:47 UTC
by AndrewCreator
Ok, I understand your opinion. Let's wait for Christian.

Posted: 2011-12-01, 14:26 UTC
by ghisler(Author)
Maybe it would indeed be a good idea to remove the filter when you switch away from TC and back. But that may also be inconvenient when editing a few filtered files. IMHO it's much easier to keep track of just one or two filters, than of multiple tabs with different filters in each.

Posted: 2011-12-12, 10:49 UTC
by AndrewCreator
It would be really bad idea to remove the filter after focus lost!

Another bad idea would to remove the filter when switching to another tab in other panel.

So, we have 3 cases:

1) Filter is lost after switching to another tab in the same panel.
2) Filter remains after switching to another tab in the other panel.
3) Filter remains after losing focus.

Case 1) is not consistent with cases 2) and 3).

There are 3 solutions:
1) Retain inconsistency.
2) Fix case 1)
3) Fix cases 2) and 3)

Solution 3) is not suitable anyway, it will break very useful TC feature.

Posted: 2011-12-12, 11:58 UTC
by Samuel
IMO the only consistent way to solve it is to make the filter state more obvious.

What if I open TC, filter, go for lunch, cant find file x...
IMO the Pathbar should be red if any filtering on the file panel is done. (Ctrl+S, Ctrl+F11 or Ctrl+F12)

Posted: 2011-12-12, 12:52 UTC
by Horst.Epp
Samuel wrote:IMO the only consistent way to solve it is to make the filter state more obvious.
What if I open TC, filter, go for lunch, cant find file x...
IMO the Pathbar should be red if any filtering on the file panel is done. (Ctrl+S, Ctrl+F11 or Ctrl+F12)
Not a good idea !
This conflicts with color settings used for the active and inactive windows.