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Posted: **2014-10-21, 17:07 UTC**

ghisler(Author) wrote:I'm not quite sure what you expect from me. I don't think that it would make sense to show ADS together with files in normal file lists. This would require calling a loop of FindFirstStreamW/FindNextStreamW for each file, which would be terribly slow with many files. A packer plugin (for Ctrl+PageDown) would be a possibility, but would block access to any other packer plugins for all files. A property sheet extension (Alt+Enter) would problably be the best solution, but that wouldn't have to be done by myself.

Any news on this?

I think totalcmd is a very professional tool for dealing with files and as such should support ADS.

The way I would prefer is seeing each ADS as an invidual file in the file listing (with size, modification date, etc.). You could require the user to enable it via a preference in wincmd.ini if you think it might be slow. Ain't there a possibility to query the number of containing ADS together with the other file properties? In this case I doubt it would be slow as the loop would mostly run 0 times.

Posted: **2014-10-23, 09:57 UTC**

As I wrote, showing all ADS for all files in a file list would be horribly slow, so this isn't an option.

Posted: **2015-01-31, 09:53 UTC**

ghisler(Author) wrote:As I wrote, showing all ADS for all files in a file list would be horribly slow, so this isn't an option.

tommy0910 mentioned:

tommy0910 wrote: You could require the user to enable it via a preference in wincmd.ini if you think it might be slow.

voting up for adding such an option!! its essential opportunity to be able to view ADS as files

Posted: **2015-03-01, 17:20 UTC**

xakepp35 wrote:
ghisler(Author) wrote:As I wrote, showing all ADS for all files in a file list would be horribly slow, so this isn't an option.
tommy0910 mentioned:
tommy0910 wrote: You could require the user to enable it via a preference in wincmd.ini if you think it might be slow.
voting up for adding such an option!! its essential opportunity to be able to view ADS as files

+1
it should be made available as an option, which is disabled by default.

Posted: **2015-03-16, 12:41 UTC**

ghisler(Author) wrote:As I wrote, showing all ADS for all files in a file list would be horribly slow, so this isn't an option.

How about just creating a new dedicated window that lists the alternate data streams when the user presses some "Show ADS for selected files and directories" option in the menu? For example... That should help with the speed issue.

It wouldn't much help for those who want to see all ADS all the time, but it would be something.

Posted: **2015-03-18, 22:23 UTC**

I couldn't care less about ADS, but the speed argument is IMHO wrong. I mean, what's better:

a) to see ADS and make TC slow, but only if user explicitly chooses the option
b) not be able to see ADS at all

How can not a) be the right answer? That is, if we don't count the best:

c) make the option (off by default) AND nice quick switch command similar to cm_SwitchHidSys

That way, it actually becomes useful for everyone, who just needs to check ADS from time to time. If I don't usually need it, I can enjoy fast TC. And if I want to have a peek at ADS, I'm just one click of a button away. And then I can turn it off again.

Posted: **2017-08-11, 12:16 UTC**

Christian, it would not be totally slow

when I run

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dir > out.txt

in C:\Windows\System32, I get

2 seconds for reading dirs and subdirs without ADS:

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dir /s > out.txt

4 seconds for reading dirs and subdirs with ADS:

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dir /s /R > outR.txt

So for example if TCMD can read the folder in 3 ms, reading including ADS would take 6 ms. Definitely worth a consideration to include ADS display as an option.

Important: do not measure the first attempt. Repated attemps have different performance.

Posted: **2017-08-11, 13:15 UTC**

miroslav.vrlik,

do not measure the first attempt. Repated attemps have different performance.

Isn't the first attempt the most important? Everything is fast when cached.

Roman

Posted: **2023-08-05, 12:26 UTC**

Any news on this?

Posted: **2023-08-05, 13:11 UTC**

I don't know any file manager that displays all stream names in its file list.
There is the Nirsoft tool AlternateStreamView which can do that if needed.

In TC, I extensively use ADS streams to add tags and comments to files using the NTFS_diz plugin.
I also use file coloring, depending on some ADS stream content.
Everything indexes my stream contents, so I can global search for such tags, comments or colors
in Everything, TC and in my 2nd file manager, XYplorer.

Posted: **2023-08-06, 07:20 UTC**

There is a newer NTFS file streams plugin which is also available as 64-bit:
http://totalcmd.net/plugring/wdx_ntfs_file_streams.html

With the parameters supported by cm_copyfiledetailstoclip you can copy just the stream names, e.g.
cm_copyfiledetailstoclip 2
would copy the first user defined column to the clipboard,
cm_copyfiledetailstoclip 4
the second,
cm_copyfiledetailstoclip 8
the third etc.

Posted: **2023-10-23, 09:44 UTC**

Hi, if I understand correctly, since a while TC, during the extraction of the archives, if the archive was previously downloaded, creates alternate data streams (a new file which is harder to see but exists) for every item extracted. Is there a way to disable that behavior?

This results in my case in immense number of totally unnecessary files that are visible only with dir /R but that are taking space and time, including the time to archive the files later, if the archiving program preserves these files. But the only information preserved that way is "this comes from something downloaded" which is not too useful in my use case -- almost everything on my machine could be considered as "downloaded" before. I know that the marker allows the Explorer to warn before a double click, but most of the files aren't executable, and it's then not worth considering if it was from some archive downloaded once.

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dir /R
...
04.08.2023  04:44            70,219 d2d1_1.h
                                 26 d2d1_1.h:Zone.Identifier:$DATA
04.08.2023  04:44             4,241 d2d1_1helper.h
                                 26 d2d1_1helper.h:Zone.Identifier:$DATA
04.08.2023  04:44             1,473 d2dbasetypes.h
                                 26 d2dbasetypes.h:Zone.Identifier:$DATA
04.08.2023  04:44             2,021 d2derr.h
                                 26 d2derr.h:Zone.Identifier:$DATA
04.08.2023  04:44            96,719 d3d.h
                                 26 d3d.h:Zone.Identifier:$DATA
04.08.2023  04:44           222,061 d3d10.h
                                 26 d3d10.h:Zone.Identifier:$DATA
04.08.2023  04:44            49,757 d3d10effect.h
                                 26 d3d10effect.h:Zone.Identifier:$DATA
04.08.2023  04:44             1,690 d3d10misc.h
                                 26 d3d10misc.h:Zone.Identifier:$DATA
...

Posted: **2023-10-23, 12:21 UTC**

serjayes wrote: ↑2023-10-23, 09:44 UTC[...] creates alternate data streams (a new file which is harder to see but exists) for every item extracted.

It's not a file but a stream.

This results in my case in immense number of totally unnecessary files that are visible only with dir /R [...]

There are other ways to see such streams: Sysinternals Streams, NirSoft AlternateStreamView and probably others.

Is there a way to disable that behavior?

Add this to your wincmd.ini via menu Configuration > Change Settings Files Directly

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[Configuration]
WantZoneData=0

Make sure to add it to the correct section and it's present only once. You can read about the setting in TC help, section 4.b, part 2.

Regards
Dalai

Posted: **2023-10-23, 12:31 UTC**

There are other ways to see such streams

They can also be seen with the internal tc content plugin: tc.ZoneId, tc.HostUrl and tc.ReferrerUrl

Posted: **2023-10-24, 11:24 UTC**

Dalai wrote: ↑2023-10-23, 12:21 UTC
Is there a way to disable that behavior?
Add this to your wincmd.ini via menu Configuration > Change Settings Files Directly
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[Configuration]
WantZoneData=0
Make sure to add it to the correct section and it's present only once. You can read about the setting in TC help, section 4.b, part 2.

Many thanks! I was able to find by searching for WantZoneData in Help and find it in "Ini File Settings part 2: Configuration N-Z", I didn't know how I could navigate to "the Section 4.b". Now, thinking more, I guess you count the "books" displayed.

Anyway, there I see only

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WantZoneData=7 Stores Zone Transfer data in NTFS streams:
1: enabled
2: Internet http
4: Anonymous ftp
8: ftp with login
16: Intranet-http

and I still don't know what exactly that entry is supposed to control. Is "enabled" (1) only about copying out of the packed files using local packer? How does the feature which can be enabled or disabled actually work? Is there a description of that somewhere? What's affected and what isn't? Thanks.

Also thanks for Streams correction, which motivated me to find other "known" streams: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/windows_protocols/ms-fscc/4f3837c4-2f96-40d7-b0bf-80dd1d0b0da0

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