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Make auto view mode config page sub-dialog of view-mode page

Posted: 2016-06-10, 15:41 UTC
by Lefteous
Please make the auto view mode config page a sub-dialog of the view-mode page. Why?

1) An auto-view mode change only makes sense when there are view-modes to assign.
2) I don't see why two pages are needed for one topic.
3) It's still easy to find - or maybe even easier.
4) The rules to define when exactly a view-mode should be changed requires a lot of width. Even the path for the very basic rules don't fit. The dialog must be resizable.

Posted: 2016-06-10, 16:01 UTC
by Ovg
2Lefteous
Very good suggestion! Support!

Re: Make auto view mode config page sub-dialog of view-mode

Posted: 2016-06-10, 16:43 UTC
by nsp
Lefteous wrote:Please make the auto view mode config page a sub-dialog of the view-mode ....
Support but this good idea is not completely implemented.
I do not see any RightClick menu entry to chose view-mode from column menu.

The auto switch mode is a nice concept but when you quit a mode you are switched to <default> and not to the previous settings :(

I do not see how to add a specific toolbar to a view mode.

I see a way to select a viewmode with a static number but I define it with a name and do not see a way to select viewmode music from a command.

I do not see any unset view_mode to be back to previous settings...

Posted: 2016-06-10, 19:50 UTC
by ghisler(Author)
I do not see any RightClick menu entry to chose view-mode from column menu.
It's currently in the main menu only. Where should I put it?

Posted: 2016-06-11, 05:30 UTC
by nsp
ghisler(Author) wrote:
I do not see any RightClick menu entry to chose view-mode from column menu.
It's currently in the main menu only. Where should I put it?
For me a good place could be the generated menu you get when you right click on the columns.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Brief view
Full view
File comments
Thumbnails view
--------------------
Configure Custom Columns
Configure View Mode
---------------------
>>>/// All my custom columns definition
--------------------
>>>//// My defined View Modes
------------------------------------------------------------

To prevent Huge list, you can have sub menu, for the generated parts (one for custom columns, one for view modes)

Posted: 2016-06-12, 15:41 UTC
by ghisler(Author)
I thought about that too, but mine is already full screen. And submenus are inconvenient. :(

Posted: 2016-06-12, 17:44 UTC
by Lefteous
Here are some ideas from me concerning the view mode menu.
http://lefteous.totalcmd.net/tc/ideas/view_mode_menu_ideas.png

I didn't really think about the eyes metaphor - it's mainly about where to put the menu.

Posted: 2016-06-12, 18:14 UTC
by Lefteous
One more idea. Maybe it's a good idea to display the current view mode. There is limited space though...

http://lefteous.totalcmd.net/tc/ideas/view_mode_menu_ideas_2.png

Posted: 2016-06-12, 21:49 UTC
by sqa_wizard
Lefteous wrote:Here are some ideas from me concerning the view mode menu.
http://lefteous.totalcmd.net/tc/ideas/view_mode_menu_ideas.png

I didn't really think about the eyes metaphor - it's mainly about where to put the menu.
Good approach!
I like the very first idea best and eyes metaphor is a good idea too.

Posted: 2016-06-12, 23:03 UTC
by Sob
The bar holds directory path and two buttons (hotlist and history) related to directory as location. View mode does not belong to same logical group, as it relates to directory view style, not location.
If I had to choose between three presented variants, I'd prefer button next to headers control, even though it's a little unusual combination. But if it should go to directory bar, then definitely the space saving small button.

Posted: 2016-06-13, 06:36 UTC
by nsp
ghisler(Author) wrote:I thought about that too, but mine is already full screen. And submenus are inconvenient. :(
I know that you re not a big fan of submenus but you already get some "almost prepared" from the main show menu ready to be reused.

Also it exists a command OPENCUSTOMVIEW <Custom Colum Name> that only load cutom columns.

Could we have the same for viewmode ?:
OPENVIEWMODE <OPTION> <Viemode Name>
Option could be /STLR Source Target Left Right. (Source by Default)


I also miss a way to "Save Current settings as View Mode" to have viewmode dialog prefilled with current settings.

Posted: 2016-06-13, 11:19 UTC
by Lefteous
2Sob
The bar holds directory path and two buttons (hotlist and history) related to directory as location. View mode does not belong to same logical group, as it relates to directory view style, not location.
If I had to choose between three presented variants, I'd prefer button next to headers control, even though it's a little unusual combination. But if it should go to directory bar, then definitely the space saving small button.
Yes there is no comprehensive representation for everything what is covered in the view modes. The most comprehensive control is the folder tabs bar. So here is another idea. The folder tab bar would lose some width.

[img]http://fs5.directupload.net/images/160613/mmry2jed.png[/img]

Posted: 2016-06-13, 18:30 UTC
by Sob
Not so great when you have many tabs.

The question on my mind is how much necessary is showing current mode. If I didn't miss anything, view mode can set columns, sorting, background colors or file list and tab, and tab icon. So it users know what kind of modes they set, it should be fairly obvious for them to tell which one is active, even without dedicated indicator.

Posted: 2016-06-13, 21:28 UTC
by Lefteous
2Sob
Not so great when you have many tabs.
Why - you just have to scroll one or two tabs earlier. Of course not displaying the view mode name is also an option.

Posted: 2016-06-13, 21:36 UTC
by Lefteous
Back to the main topic. Here is how I imagine the config page.


http://lefteous.totalcmd.net/tc/ideas/view_mode.png