?Explorer (and dBpoweramp) tooltips not displaying in Beta 4

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?Explorer (and dBpoweramp) tooltips not displaying in Beta 4

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Title says it all. Tooltips that display fine in Explorer (and TC 8.52) do not display in the file lists in Beta 4.

I'm using Win 8.1, 64-bit.
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Hmm, nothing was changed in that function which could cause this problem. Maybe you are using the beta with admin rights and the release with normal rights?
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That's possible, but why should that matter? Admin vs. non-Admin.
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Found how to avoid this problem, although it's not really a solution.

If TC 9.0b5 is installed in its own folder, the tooltips work fine. Installing over my existing version, however, results in the behavior I saw.

I don't know if this is particular to something in my setup, or if it's a general problem.

Just a thought, but maybe some of your other non-repeatable bugs also involve installing over another version.
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jkauff wrote:If TC 9.0b5 is installed in its own folder, the tooltips work fine. Installing over my existing version, however, results in the behavior I saw.
Which settings file(s) do the TCs use in these cases? Is it the same one or are they different?

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And what are TC paths? Maybe, for example, one path has spaces in it, and the other not...
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?Explorer (and dBpoweramp) tooltips not displaying in Beta 4

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jkauff wrote:Found how to avoid this problem, although it's not really a solution.

If TC 9.0b5 is installed in its own folder, the tooltips work fine. Installing over my existing version, however, results in the behavior I saw.

I don't know if this is particular to something in my setup, or if it's a general problem.

Just a thought, but maybe some of your other non-repeatable bugs also involve installing over another version.
I reproduce the problem at first Tcmd launch (TC 9.0b5), but tooltips will appear fine after making a right click in the right or left files panel.
So it seems that this is just a small initialization problem.
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MarcinW wrote:And what are TC paths? Maybe, for example, one path has spaces in it, and the other not...
No, both are without spaces, at the root of the C: drive.
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steph7s wrote:I reproduce the problem at first Tcmd launch (TC 9.0b5), but tooltips will appear fine after making a right click in the right or left files panel.
So it seems that this is just a small initialization problem.
Is that a fresh install, or an install over TC 8.x? I'll try it again later today.
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jkauff wrote:
steph7s wrote:I reproduce the problem at first Tcmd launch (TC 9.0b5), but tooltips will appear fine after making a right click in the right or left files panel.
So it seems that this is just a small initialization problem.
Is that a fresh install, or an install over TC 8.x? I'll try it again later today.
I installed over TC 8.52a, problem reproduced both launched normal/as admin, my OS: Windows 7 SP1 x64, after making the right clic once (as decribed previously) the OLE32 bullets work until i close TC9, at the next start another right clic...etc...
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steph7s wrote:.. after making the right clic once (as decribed previously) the OLE32 bullets work until i close TC9...
This sounds like one context menu shell extension loads a dll (MS-C-Runtime?) which is also needed by dBPowerAmp tooltip extension and can't for some reason not located at the time TC tries to instantiate the dBPowerAmp shell extension.
Make sure that the windows search path (Win+R -> sysdm.cpl -> Advanced -> Enviroment Variables -> System Variables: Path) includes the "%SystemRoot%\system32" path.

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I reproduce the problem at first Tcmd launch (TC 9.0b5), but tooltips will appear fine after making a right click in the right or left files panel.
To me it sounds like Total Commander doesn't have the focus. Then no tooltips will be shown until you focus TC. A left click or right click or Alt+Tab should all work.
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Installed B5 over 8.52a this afternoon, and the tooltips show up. As far as I'm concerned, this issue can be closed.
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ghisler(Author) wrote:
I reproduce the problem at first Tcmd launch (TC 9.0b5), but tooltips will appear fine after making a right click in the right or left files panel.
To me it sounds like Total Commander doesn't have the focus. Then no tooltips will be shown until you focus TC. A left click or right click or Alt+Tab should all work.
Hi Christian, a found a way to reproduce (also in TC 9.0b6) and it's not a focus problem:
- No matter of native install or over TC8x

Configuration 1: The Ole32 tooltips (exe/dll version...) not working at TC start (focus in any exe or dll file OK) until you right click this file.

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Display => Icons => Show icons to the left of filename 
	( ) All associated + EXE/LNK (slow)
	(o) All associated

Display => Help texts
	[x] Showfilename in file list as tooltip if truncated
		[x] Win32-style tips with file comments (if available)
		[ ] Comments from descript.ion/files bbs
		[x] Comments from (OLE2)

Operation => Mouse selection mode
	(o) Left mouse button (Windows standard)

Configuration 2: Ole32 tooltips displayed fine in all cases.
Same as Configuration 1 but "Show icons" option changed :

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Display => Icons => Show icons to the left of filename 
	(o) All associated + EXE/LNK (slow)
	( ) All associated
...
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Thanks, I will check that.
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