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Re: Variable captions in Fn bottom bar for keyboard modifiers

Posted: 2024-03-08, 23:47 UTC
by petermad
Or perhaps a tooltip for all modifiers could be shown when hovered even if nothing is pressed?
For several of the buttons It would be a multi-line tooltip - I think that would get annoying if it popped up every time you happen to hover a Fn button.

Re: Variable captions in Fn bottom bar for keyboard modifiers

Posted: 2024-03-10, 09:14 UTC
by Usher
petermad wrote: 2024-03-07, 18:50 UTC Maybe just show a tooltip
It's not enough. In this case you can't see that any of Alt, Ctrl or Shift keys stuck in a pressed position.

Re: Variable captions in Fn bottom bar for keyboard modifiers

Posted: 2024-03-10, 21:30 UTC
by petermad
Usher wrote: 2024-03-10, 09:14 UTC It's not enough. In this case you can't see that any of Alt, Ctrl or Shift keys stuck in a pressed position.
Do you mean that it is TC's job to be responsible for revealing physically stuck keyboard keys?

Re: Variable captions in Fn bottom bar for keyboard modifiers

Posted: 2024-03-11, 02:50 UTC
by Usher
You can change system settings to show underlined hotkey letters in menu only after pressing Alt or to always show hotkeys. In the first case you can see when the Alt key is stuck.

Do you mean that it is Windows Explorer's job to be responsible for revealing physically stuck Alt? For me it's just a nice side effect.

To be serious, all TC features should be available from keyboard WITH NO mouse or other pointing device present. See my other message about drive selection in Alt+F7 options:
viewtopic.php?t=79662

Re: Variable captions in Fn bottom bar for keyboard modifiers

Posted: 2024-03-11, 07:14 UTC
by Helix751
Or shall a tooltip be displayed _even when not hovering_ for all buttons, to show what will happen when clicked or key-pressed?

Re: Variable captions in Fn bottom bar for keyboard modifiers

Posted: 2024-03-11, 10:19 UTC
by petermad
To be serious, all TC features should be available from keyboard WITH NO mouse or other pointing device present.
That could be obtained the same way as it is for the Button bar - here you have to focus the Button bar with Alt+Shift+F11 before you can see the tooltips for the buttons without using the mouse. So we would just need a command to set focus to the Function key bar.

Re: Variable captions in Fn bottom bar for keyboard modifiers

Posted: 2024-03-11, 21:54 UTC
by Usher
So you want me to navigate from button to button and pressing Alt many times rather than just showing all functions immediately after pressing modifier key. It's completely user unfriendly.

Re: Variable captions in Fn bottom bar for keyboard modifiers

Posted: 2024-03-12, 02:25 UTC
by petermad
So you want me to navigate from button to button and pressing Alt many times rather than just showing all functions
I imagined that you hold down Alt and move between the Function keys - with either the mouse - or the arrow keys once the function key bar has focus, if you don't want to use the mouse.

I am not against a solution where the text on the buttons changes when the modifier keys are pressed, but that will need a lot of new language strings that fits the buttons..

Re: Variable captions in Fn bottom bar for keyboard modifiers

Posted: 2024-03-22, 13:05 UTC
by JOUBE
Using Nirsoft's tool KeyboardStateView you can easily see that all Alt Ctlr Shift keys can be queried: That's why I'm in favor of the following:

The Tc provides a new section in the Ini in which every user can enter texts that suit them, if they want. Which will then be displayed in the F key bar when alt, ctlr, shift, etc. are pressed.

As I said: Each user enters their own text there individually. If they do not enter any, the standard text is displayed.

One line each for a combination and then the texts with "|" as separator. (space/notext for standard text and - for 'no text').

Alt=||-|A+F3 Text|Exit|||Alt+F7 Search|| ||-|A+12 X|
....

Joube