search features request & misc suggestions

[HolgerK]

Indexed search is one of 5 topics you've listed in your initial post.
And using the forum search with keywords: [indexed search] gives you the following results:

http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=19308&highlight=indexed+search
http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=12252&highlight=indexed+search
http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=11327&highlight=indexed+search
http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=7235&highlight=indexed+search

HTH,
Holger

[petermad]

2eydaimon

The topic here was indexed search

That was ONE of the topics

What we are trying to say here is, that if you had just used the forum's search function, you would have found out that at least your requests number 1 to 4 has been discussed several time before, and that there are solutions to at least no 1 and 3.

If you had for example done a forum search after "indexed search" you would have found out that:
1. the topic has been discussed in at least 4 other threads already,
2. your request brings nothing new,
3. there are third party programmes that can work with TC to do faster searches (locate32,)


BTW please read this:
http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=2 sections 1a and 12
http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=42388#42388
http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=104752#104752

[eydaimon]

I started using the alt-10 for awhile, and was pleased with it. However, as more folders I had got indexed, using the feature became frustrating. It takes 12 seconds for the search dialog to even open. (there are 50,000 folders indexed).

I still think having better search is paramount to a file manager.

[HolgerK]

I started using the alt-10 for awhile, and was pleased with it. However, as more folders I had got indexed, using the feature became frustrating. It takes 12 seconds for the search dialog to even open. (there are 50,000 folders indexed)

Once again, the forum search may be helpful:
http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=51336&highlight=treeinfo+slow#51336

Regards
Holger

[eydaimon]

I started using the alt-10 for awhile, and was pleased with it. However, as more folders I had got indexed, using the feature became frustrating. It takes 12 seconds for the search dialog to even open. (there are 50,000 folders indexed)

Once again, the forum search may be helpful:
http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=51336&highlight=treeinfo+slow#51336

Regards
Holger

Do I take it that you are suggesting that problematic behavior with the software should be solved by consumer work rather than the author actually fixing and solving the problem?

If that's the case, remind me never ever to buy a product that you're selling. I hope Ghisler is of a better mind.

Had you given me the answer without nagging me about searching, I would have been grateful, but now I feel like you're saying it's my fault I didn't look, when I think the software should have fixed such an issue.

[eydaimon]

re-indexing doesn't help for that matter.

The file was 5mb before, and 5mb after, still containing 55 thousand directory entries.

It's a poor index file to boot. It's just lines as opposed to a usable db index format.

I *STILL* maintain that this feature needs to be implemented, and this alt+F10 is just a hack

[HolgerK]

Do I take it that you are suggesting that problematic behavior with the software should be solved by consumer work rather than the author actually fixing and solving the problem?

If the problem is on the customer's computer side.... Yes.
Id' tested this here with a 36.000 folder drive and had no big delay.

remind me never ever to buy a product that you're selling.

I'm not an employee of ghisler.com.
You should keep in mind that this is also a "user to user forum"

re-indexing doesn't help for that matter.

Are you running an antivirus monitor?
Exclude the treeinfo.wc from scanning in that case.

Maybe this one?

Regards
Holger

[eydaimon]

If the problem is on the customer's computer side.... Yes.
Id' tested this here with a 36.000 folder drive and had no big delay.

I can see your point, but I have no magic special setup that would be a problem here.

And I'm just getting impatient at arguments to make a poor solution work. If it's user to user, then why aren't people here in favor of actually getting a better solution instead of what feels like arguments against my suggestions?

Are you running an antivirus monitor?
Exclude the treeinfo.wc from scanning in that case.

Maybe this one?

Regards
Holger

no on that one too, but thank you for trying to help nevertheless.

[Hacker]

eydaimon,

And I'm just getting impatient at arguments to make a poor solution work. If it's user to user, then why aren't people here in favor of actually getting a better solution instead of what feels like arguments against my suggestions?

People think it's better to try and help you make something work now instead of agreeing with you that this should be improved and letting you wait for a future TC version which might or might not improve this.

Roman

[eydaimon]

it's better to try and help you make something work now instead of agreeing with you that this should be improved and letting you wait for a future TC version which might or might not improve this.

Roman

That does not explain the "arguments against my suggestions".

[Hacker]

eydaimon,

That does not explain the "arguments against my suggestions".

You are welcome.

why aren't people here in favor of actually getting a better solution instead of what feels like arguments against my suggestions?

That is not mutually exclusive.

As for your suggestion number one, it would break the attributes logic by excluding one attribute. People might complain why the directory attribute is not in its logical place among them. As far as I remember, you are the only one having requested this change, and as long as it does not make sense to most of the people and there is a usable workaround, they will not consider it useful and will not support the implementation / change.

As for your suggestion number two, it has already been proposed and nobody is against.

Concerning your suggestion number three, it has already been proposed, some people are in favor, some are not, an alternate updated .chm help download might be available later for TC 7.5.

As for number four - it might be nice but could bring other problems, like people who have customized menus would have them suddenly changed, translations might be wrong, perhaps there might be problems with right-to-left languages, write rights for the menu file, etc. Generally there is little from a user's perspective to see wrong with this, but betatesters know how one little feature might bring lots of trouble with it, and the time might be better spent on other, less troublesome features. Nobody is saying that it's a bad idea per se.

Your suggestion number five is nice but seems a little too complex to implement, at least without specific concepts of the UI, use cases, etc. It always helps to propose features with a description of how they would work and perhaps even some fake screenshots, or screenshots and explanations about how it works in other tools, preferably comparable to TC.

Roman

[eydaimon]

I wanted to share a solution I've found for my search for now. It's not optimal because it doesn't have TC integrated to the level I'd like, but it certainly makes finding files and folders snappily.

I'm using a program called Everything

It has the option to set an external file manager:

5.2 How can I set "Everything" to use an external file manager?

Requires "Everything" 1.2.0 beta or later.
Exit Everything.
Open Everything.ini in "Everything"'s installation folder.
Add the following 2 lines to the bottom of the ini:
open_folder_command=$exec("ExternalFileManager.exe" "%1")
open_folder_path_command=$exec("ExternalFileManager.exe" "$parent(%1)")
Replace the text ExternalFileManager.exe with the full path and file name of your file manager executable.
Check your external file manager help for any required command line parameters.
Restart "Everything".

[Stance]

For your Information: Launching a tab in Totalcmd from explorer?
How to configure "Everything"-Beta that Total Commander opens the result list (not Explorer)

[eydaimon]

thanks

out of curiousity. the %commander_path% didn't seem to map to my actual path. How can I set that? registry option or something?