Dialog text out of border
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Dialog text out of border
Due to getting a much bigger screen, I had to redefine some fonts in the system to keep it readable.
So I changed the font type of the "Dialog box font" to 'Microsoft Sans Serif, 10,b'.
Some text didn't fit anymore, or lost the lower strokes of some letters. So I changed to point 9.
But it didn't help. The dimensions of some frames or buttons seems to be fixed.
Image: http://i45.tinypic.com/dmy4c4.png
I wonder about the necessity of those trailing three dots by the way.
So I changed the font type of the "Dialog box font" to 'Microsoft Sans Serif, 10,b'.
Some text didn't fit anymore, or lost the lower strokes of some letters. So I changed to point 9.
But it didn't help. The dimensions of some frames or buttons seems to be fixed.
Image: http://i45.tinypic.com/dmy4c4.png
I wonder about the necessity of those trailing three dots by the way.
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2Sam_Zen,
Add OverrideDPI=120 to your wincmd.ini and reduce the font size by one step.
Holger
Add OverrideDPI=120 to your wincmd.ini and reduce the font size by one step.
HTHHistory.txt wrote:24.04.07 Added: (Experimental, undocumented): wincmd.ini [Configuration] OverrideDPI=120 scales all dialog boxes (except for the main window!) to the given size in dots per inch. Normal is 96 dpi
Holger
Let try---
2Sam_Zen
Hello Sam !
• It seems that you are using a bold font. Maybe could you try a normal one ?
- Also, you could play with the screen definition to find the optimal one (I had to do so when I installed a new LCD monitor some months ago…).
- Ensure you that you are using the current definition section, and not the [AllDefinitions] one…
- The last : You could try the narrow font in the sub-dir “Police_étroite” of this SMALL PACKAGE.
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Claude
Clo

• It seems that you are using a bold font. Maybe could you try a normal one ?
- Also, you could play with the screen definition to find the optimal one (I had to do so when I installed a new LCD monitor some months ago…).
- Ensure you that you are using the current definition section, and not the [AllDefinitions] one…
- The last : You could try the narrow font in the sub-dir “Police_étroite” of this SMALL PACKAGE.

Claude
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Re: Dialog text out of border
This is a standard Windows GUI design, you can find these three dots used in all Apps, a command label with three dots means that command will not executed directly but it will show a dialog box.Sam_Zen wrote:I wonder about the necessity of those trailing three dots by the way.
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Try a smaller font size, e.g. 7, combined with a higher DPI size. The font will be scaled with the rest of the dialog.
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Thanks all.
I wanted to avoid using font size 7, it would be too small for my ole eyes, but a combination of unbolding and DPI=120 solved it already.
As Clo suggested, I'm going to experiment with other screen definitions as well. As with other DPI values.
Changing from small 4:3 to a big 16:9 is like rearranging your tools in a new, bigger toolbox.
I wanted to avoid using font size 7, it would be too small for my ole eyes, but a combination of unbolding and DPI=120 solved it already.
As Clo suggested, I'm going to experiment with other screen definitions as well. As with other DPI values.
Changing from small 4:3 to a big 16:9 is like rearranging your tools in a new, bigger toolbox.
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2Sam_Zen
I can confirm that the string can not fit in the buttons in your example, but I cannot confirm that the underlining of accellerator keys is not shown neither with XP theme: http://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/10b.png nor with Classic theme; http://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/10bC.png
I can confirm that the string can not fit in the buttons in your example, but I cannot confirm that the underlining of accellerator keys is not shown neither with XP theme: http://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/10b.png nor with Classic theme; http://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/10bC.png
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Hello !
) :
- The real ellipsis sign is NOT three dots, it's the single character ANSI #133 (supported in the default Microsoft Sans Serif font).
Ellipsis : …
3 dots : ...
- It's smaller… Well, that isn't true with all fonts (Paul Vansumsen tested that), but it could help in making the strings shorter and it's worth a try…
KR
Claude
Clo

• That's right, useful and intuitive, BUT (that will get on the Author's nervesThis is a standard Windows GUI design, you can find these three dots used in all Apps, …

- The real ellipsis sign is NOT three dots, it's the single character ANSI #133 (supported in the default Microsoft Sans Serif font).
Ellipsis : …
3 dots : ...
- It's smaller… Well, that isn't true with all fonts (Paul Vansumsen tested that), but it could help in making the strings shorter and it's worth a try…

Claude
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I can.petermad wrote:.., but I cannot confirm that the underlining of accellerator keys is not shown...

(Vista aero, TC7.50a fresh.ini)

Related system setting:
Vista: Control Panel -> Ease of Access Center -> Make the keyboard easier to use:
[_] underline keyboard shortcuts and access keys
XP: AFAIR somewhere under "Display properties" ...
Regards
Holger
It is: Control Panel -> Screen -> Appearance -> Effects -> "Hide underlined letters for keyboard navigation until I press the Alt key" as pointed several times through the years: http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=18983#18983 and http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=118131#118131XP: AFAIR somewhere under "Display properties" ...
But maybe that is not what Sam_Zen was complaining about when he wrote:
Maybe has was just referring to missing descenders http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descender - although both p and y shows correctly in his picture http://i45.tinypic.com/dmy4c4.pnglost the lower strokes of some letters
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