Everything search: no effect

[TW]

The more specific your search request - the faster result you get.

this is true for most of my search cases true. (hell, where did i put file xyz!?)

BUT: if one needs to rename/delete a bunch of files you don't want to be specific.
if i want to delete all .bak files i do search for *.bak and not a*.bak, then b*.bak c*.bak etc...

[Lefteous]

To make things a bit more tangible searching for e*.dll in c:\windows as suggested by MVV takes 19 seconds here - with or without Everything.
I really don't think it's used. In Everything the search takes < 1 second.

[TW]

hm... you might be right, the same search takes about 1 second here in TC, with 620 results.

searching for *.dll in c:\Windows takes about 30 seconds (laptop with slow hard drive) resulting 21.652 files

/edit: strange... standard search comes up with 21.700 files.

[MVV]

To make things a bit more tangible searching for e*.dll in c:\windows as suggested by MVV takes 19 seconds here - with or without Everything.
I really don't think it's used. In Everything the search takes < 1 second.

It seems that Everything really doesn't work in your case. I get results in less than a second with Everything while old-style search tooks about 15-20 seconds.

/edit: strange... standard search comes up with 21.700 files.

There may be some differences if you use 32-bit or non-elevated TC and 64-bit or elevated Everything

[milo1012]

i wonder what attributes? why is that needed if nothing is ticked in "advanced"? the search results only shows filenames.

Because that's how TC's search works: it finds files and fetches the attributes basically at the same time.
Otherwise you would see another session of disc access when sending the results to the normal TC view via "Feed to listbox".

And attributes are of course: modification time stamp, file size, plus the basic file attributes hidden/read-only/system/archive etc.
These are the things that Everything doesn't provide (for now, not talking about that beta version) in the search, just the raw file path.

And BTW, the search results already show you the time stamp and the size if you mark any entry.

[Horst.Epp]

To make things a bit more tangible searching for e*.dll in c:\windows as suggested by MVV takes 19 seconds here - with or without Everything.
I really don't think it's used. In Everything the search takes < 1 second.

For me it takes about 8 seconds with Everything and about 19 without.

[milo1012]

Well when the checkbox is checked it should be used. If it's really the case that the enumeration in the statusbar is not a 100% indicator that Everything isn't used then it's a bit confusing when you expect immediate results.

Sure, but the search might still fail (Elevation issues, the DLL interface failing, user closed the exe in between, etc.)

Like I said before:

This doesn't need to be some big icon, maybe highlighting the [x] Everything checkbox in a "warning" color (yellow?) after a search, when there were problems retrieving results from the DLL and TC needed to switch to normal search.

[Lefteous]

2milo1012

Sure, but the search might still fail (Elevation issues, the DLL interface failing, user closed the exe in between, etc.)

For me it's not something you can put in a status - display error message

- Continue
- Abort
[ ] Deactivate Everything (whole world)

[Hacker]

Lefteous,

[ ] Deactivate Everything (whole world)

Thanks
Roman

[sheppaul]

Well others are claiming there is a speed difference between TC using Everything and Everything standalone.

I've been using everything several years now and feel the speed difference too.

What about adding sub-option like "on the fly" if possible? If the option is used, the target to search should be all the local hdds. It would be nice if it is possible to search the whole database from everything as I have multiple offline hdd DBs within it.

The only one thing I need everything within tcmd is to feed the result to listbox after instant search. I'd like to see more accessible interface like search tab if possible.

Ps. Isn't it possible to boost up the speed of calculating folder size with everything if it is indexed? (like space bar action over folder, shift+alt+enter, preparing files to copy)

[Hacker]

sheppaul,

Isn't it possible to boost up the speed of calculating folder size with everything if it is indexed? (like space bar action over folder, shift+alt+enter, preparing files to copy)

Currently TC is not getting the file sizes from Everything.

Christian,
Perhaps users could indicate with an INI option that they are using the Everything beta until a better option becomes available?

Roman

[TW]

Currently TC is not getting the file sizes from Everything.

Christian,
Perhaps users could indicate with an INI option that they are using the Everything beta until a better option becomes available?

Roman

+1

[MVV]

What about adding sub-option like "on the fly" if possible? If the option is used, the target to search should be all the local hdds. It would be nice if it is possible to search the whole database from everything as I have multiple offline hdd DBs within it.

I think specifying * in Search in field would be logical for this...

[tosbsas]

any help on how to set this up the right way. Using everything for a long time now, but connect it to tc I don't know how

[Horst.Epp]

any help on how to set this up the right way. Using everything for a long time now, but connect it to tc I don't know how

If you read the thread above you should already know
Anyway:
Install Everything including its service and let it running in background.
Install TC 9.0 beta 2
TC Search with option Everything selected