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Proposal/Vorschlag: Continuum Support
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lingua Franca 2017 CE: English
Does the forum have a translator..?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try Google translate:
translate.google.com/translate?u=https%3A//ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D43389%26postdays%3D0%26postorder%3Dasc%26start%3D0&hl=en&langpair=de|en&tbb=1&ie=windows-1252
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:51 pm    Post subject: Translation Reply with quote

That link was completely recursive, unfortunately.
translate.google.com served the purpose, however.


This topic is already a bit older, but as I am concerned about the same issue I did not want to create a new one for it.
In brief: How does it look now with a Continuumfähigen Windows 10 version?

Offtopic: I would also like to have a praise for the good work on the Total Commander, we use it both for the company and private (more than 20 licenses currently) and are very satisfied. Since in the next move of the change Windows Phones with Continuum a lot of room, the usage of the Total Commander would be of course very advantageous for us. Therefore also the request.

best regards,
Kayla


As I wrote above, it is unfortunately impossible to support Continuum in a Windows Phone 8.1 app. For this I would have to create a Windows Phone 10 app, but is then no longer compatible with older devices. Many older devices have not received Windows Phone 10. Both versions under the same name in the store to my knowledge is not synonymous.

Do you know how to solve other apps that already support Continuum?

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Thanks for the answer.

About the problem of compatibility, I am already in the clear. Unfortunately, the app design was not compatible with the game, and therefore it meant a lot of effort for the developers, which is a shame, but the other way around, synonymous understandable, after all, Windows 10 8 years of secured support, while the predecessors would not exist any longer.

But to your question: Either there are complete new developments which did not exist before UWP10, or revisions which are then placed with another name, eg: TotalCommander10 in the store. In principle, all pure UWP10 apps are also Continuum compatible as far as I know this (so far I have not even had to deviate with the test itself)

Kayla


Thanks for the clarification! Annoying that you [one] can[ ]not offer an 8.1 + 10 app under the same name ...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hallo,

ich würde es auch super finden wenn es eine UWP App vom Total Commander geben würde, so dass man sie auch unter Continuum (Desktop am Handy) nutzen kann.

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Beide Varianten unter dem gleichen Namen in den Store zu stellen geht meines Wissens auch nicht.


Doch genau das funktioniert. Man kann es so machen, dass z.b. Windows Phone 8.1 User weiterhin die Windows Phone 8.1 Variante bekommen und Windows 10 Mobile User die Windows 10 Variante bekommen.

So macht das beispielsweise auch MyTube oder auch MSN News etc.

Das selbe funktioniert unter Windows 10 auch. So kann man Leuten mit 10240, 10586, 14393, 15063, 16299 jeweils die passende Version geben.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Als Thread Opener und ehemals begeisteter Nutzer muss ich leider sagen: "He's dead, Jim."

Windows Mobile ist tot, niemand sollte mehr Aufwand in den Continuum Support stecken, sondern die Zeit lieber sinnvoll in den Total Commander Dektop investieren.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man steckt ja nicht speziellen Aufwand in Continuum. Jeder UWP App läuft ohne Einschränkungen automatisch in Continuum.

Die UWP ist auch alles andere als tot. Wäre Total Commander als UWP verfügbar könnte man diese App auch sofort in Mixed Reality, Hololens, Xbox, Windows IoT etc einsetzen.

Die App als UWP anzubieten, bringt einem also doch sehr sehr viele Vorteile, dass diese dann auch in Continuum für Windows 10 Mobile funktioniert, ist ja nur das Sahne Häubchen, wenn man so will.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Das Problem ist, dass ich TC von einer Windows Phone-Version erst auf eine Windows Mobile 10-Version umschreiben müsste. Keine Ahnung wie gross der Aufwand dafür ist.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ist denn TC eine Silverlight app? Wenn ja dafür gabs damals nen converter soweit ich weiß, der die gröbsten Sachen schon übernommen hat. Falls nicht, sollte es relativ einfach sein, aus der App ne UWP App zu machen.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wie erkenne ich das? Ist schon viele Jahre her, dass ich das Projekt erzeugt habe. Im Visual Studio wird nicht angezeigt, welcher Typ App es ist.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ein gutes Indiz dafür ist wenn das App Paket mit .XAP endet, dann sind es in der Regel Silverlight Projekte.
Die neueren nutzen appx oder mit Windows Phone 8.1 sogar appxbundle.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/mt148501.aspx Hier ist eigentlich eine gute Anleitung wie mein eine Windows Phone 8.1 App zu UWP umwandelt.

http://video.ch9.ms/sessions/build/2015/3-741.pptx

Aber auch für Silverlight gibt's Porting options:
https://docs.microsoft.com/de-de/windows/uwp/porting/wpsl-to-uwp-root
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TC verwendet appxbundle, also ist er schon eine Windows Phone 8.1 App. Sieht trotzdem nach einer Menge Arbeit aus.

Kann man irgendwie einstellen, dass man eine App sowohl für Windows Phone 8.x als auch als UWP kompilieren kann, etwa als 2 spearate Ziele im selben Projekt?
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