Intertal ZIP packer: use 7z.exe?

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Re: Intertal ZIP packer: use 7z.exe?

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When check "Use internal ZIP packer" and "7Z" TC use internal?
Why one not exclude other?
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Re: Intertal ZIP packer: use 7z.exe?

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Priority is one thing. Selection "7z vs NT vs none" is another.
How should it conflict?
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I not see priority, I see that every work zip.
Then should be disabled: checkbox and not radiobox.
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In case when we use 120% DPI we have next glitch:
I also looks unbalanced without scaling: https://tcmd.madsenworld.dk/7zbox.png
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yes, it does ;)
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How would you solve it? Maybe tell translators to remove the version number of ZIP-NT? It's a very old version, so no one should be using older versions anyway.
When check "Use internal ZIP packer" and "7Z" TC use internal?
Why one not exclude other?
I keep 7z or ZIP-NT checked for the case where the user temporarily switches to the internal packer, so the type of external packer isn't lost.
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7Z support should REPLACE completely with itself the outdated UC2.Section with ZIP support should stay untouched.
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Re: Intertal ZIP packer: use 7z.exe?

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ghisler(Author) wrote: Maybe tell translators to remove the version number of ZIP-NT? It's a very old version, so no one should be using older versions anyway

Good idea.
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7Z support should REPLACE completely with itself the outdated UC2.Section with ZIP support should stay untouched.
Maybe tell translators to remove the version number of ZIP-NT? It's a very old version, so no one should be using older versions anyway.
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petermad wrote: 2023-06-08, 12:22 UTC
7Z support should REPLACE completely with itself the outdated UC2.Section with ZIP support should stay untouched.
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Its never good to remove options...
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But UC2 is cremated, buried, dug up again, and thrown in a volcano. You'll have to jump trough hoops to get it to work on 64bit windows (it can be done) but to keep it in for that one person that needs it once a century it is a waste of valuable space on the packer dialog.

Poll https://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=414944
and I suggested once to let the user define the 9 packers that can be selected via the radio boxes (see poll)
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UC2 is already dead. You even can't find working exe today. And there's no more uc2 files in the web.
BTW, if you have too old PC to use it, you must remember that TC can't do inside UC2 files, but only unpack them. The same actions (pack/unpack) you can do via 2 buttons on ButtonBar or in user menus. No need to waste place in Alt+F5 dialog. Furtermore TC x64 can't use UC2 at all.
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Re: Intertal ZIP packer: use 7z.exe?

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hi5 wrote: 2023-06-10, 21:37 UTC But UC2 is cremated, buried, dug up again, and thrown in a volcano. You'll have to jump trough hoops to get it to work on 64bit windows (it can be done) but to keep it in for that one person that needs it once a century it is a waste of valuable space on the packer dialog.

Poll https://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=414944
and I suggested once to let the user define the 9 packers that can be selected via the radio boxes (see poll)
Sorry but 66 users dont count very much in my book :twisted: but then again you want also stuff like lha removed which is still used for old amiga stuff eg

Should the pack dialog be redone? theres no doubt about that (i want more space for 5491 since forever...)
Should 7z be implemented? obviously!

Should options be removed? Never!
MaxX wrote: 2023-06-10, 23:45 UTC UC2 is already dead. You even can't find working exe today.
Sure if you dont know how to browse the web :twisted: otherwise: http://files.mpoli.fi/software/DOS/COMPRESS/
(file UC237B.EXE)
MaxX wrote: 2023-06-10, 23:45 UTC BTW, if you have too old PC to use it, you must remember that TC can't do inside UC2 files, but only unpack them. The same actions (pack/unpack) you can do via 2 buttons on ButtonBar or in user menus. No need to waste place in Alt+F5 dialog. Furtermore TC x64 can't use UC2 at all.
if the button works in tc32 it works in tc64 :P
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Re: Intertal ZIP packer: use 7z.exe?

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Is it about principles or logic?
If I also hope that the latter, then you somehow got lost in the evidence, imho.
After all, the fact that you can find anything on the World Wide Web, even "forbidden" - does not mean that everything should be stable and unchanged. If something has a great drop in its percentage of importance and relevance, then for this they always find a place on the mezzanine or in the garage, on the far shelf. Someone once, if he wants to, he can always get it again. But simply the effort must be proportionate to the need. And now, in current times and with an actual mass character, it becomes more important to expand support for just a trio of archivers: rar/zip/7z. Everything else can be "on the shelf" - in the form of addons / plugins / submodules to remake. And for those people who have a need to work with outdated archives, they should actually have the right tools at their fingertips, figuratively speaking. They must choose them for themselves, so as not to depend on any external factors. And even more so, they should not get hung up on the fact that Total, for example, can do all this now. Force majeure circumstances may arise and it will cease to support them all the same. And what - they will only then begin to look for what they should have had for "a hundred years" as on the nearest "shelf" in access to lie?
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