Ctrl-PgDwn not opening exe archives any more

[Fla$her]

Knowingly recommending a plugin whose current version isn't able to do what you claim it to do is ... not a good idea, for a lack of a better term.

This is a false interpretation. I didn't give any recommendations. I just referred to a plugin that could be related to the previous behavior. What version the questioner could have, neither you nor I have any idea. However, even if the current version is unsuitable for the specified file, this does not mean that it will not be useful for other installers.
If someone needs 1.1.1, I'll publish it without any problem.

[brahman]

Okay, thank you.

Your comments helped a lot. I actually had Total7zip installed, but not registered for exe files.

So I made following changes:
I changed the capabilities number of Total7zip to 1023, and I changed/added the following lines:
[PackerPlugins]
Total7Zip=1023,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
exe=148,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx

The exe opens now. But there is an unwanted side effect:
Instead of the original icon, this and other exe files now depicts the generic archive icon: the yellow box.

How to remove the side effect and get back the original icons?

[petermad]

So I made following changes:
I changed the capabilities number of Total7zip to 1023, and I changed/added the following lines:
[PackerPlugins]
Total7Zip=1023,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
exe=148,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx

It works for me without having to explicitly register exe files for Total7zip.wcx

I recommend that you remove those two entries and use:
7z=735,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx

If you already have 7z registered for something else, then change that 7z to 7z_somethingelse

[Gral]

You don't need register Total7Zip plugin for exe files to open these files by Ctrl+PgDn.
Also don't need to change default configuration of Total7Zip plugin - neither change default "735" nor extension.

[Dalai]

2Fla$her
Still, you could've mentioned this limitation if you knew about it since using the latest version isn't useful at all for the case at hand.

2brahman
Add 256 to the value you're currently using (148) to tell TC to open such files only with Ctrl+PgDn instead of Enter; this will also show the regular icon instead of the archive icon. Information about these flags can be found in the TC help, section 4.b., in section about [PackerPlugins].

Regards
Dalai

[Fla$her]

2Dalai
I knew about it when it was relevant. Several years have passed since then, so I did not focus on a specific version, believing that I have the latest one, since with rare exceptions I keep track of updates. After your remark, I remembered why I didn't update the plugin.

[Gral]

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2brahman
Add 256 to the value you're currently using (148) to tell TC to open such files only with Ctrl+PgDn instead of Enter; this will also show the regular icon instead of the archive icon. Information about these flags can be found in the TC help, section 4.b., in section about [PackerPlugins]
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No, because the entry for exe files is unnecessary here at all

[brahman]

I think I am getting the hang of this. I have used TC now for 20+ years, and I rarely configure the Packer Plugins, so my skills here are rudimentary. Thank you for bearing with me.

My current entry is like this:

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[PackerPlugins]
Total7Zip=1023,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
7z=671,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
wim=671,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
xz=667,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
bzip2=667,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
7zip_gzip=667,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
7zip_tar=671,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
7zip_zip=671,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
gzip=667,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
tar=671,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
bz2=132,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
arj=132,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
cab=644,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
flv=644,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
gz=652,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
lzh=671,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
jar=148,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
rar=148,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
exe=148,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
msi=68,%Commander_path%\WCX\InstallExplorer\InstExpl.wcx
TotalObserver=68,%Commander_path%\Wcx\TotalObserver\TotalObserver.wcx
iso=192,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\iso\iso.wcx
img=192,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\iso\iso.wcx
ima=31,%Commander_path%\wcx\img\img.wcx
bin=192,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\iso\iso.wcx
nrg=192,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\iso\iso.wcx
lst=31,%Commander_path%\wcx\DiskDirExtended\DiskDirExtended.wcx
bat=279,%Commander_path%\wcx\makebat\makebat.wcx
m3u=279,%Commander_path%\wcx\makebat\makebat.wcx
sqx=607,%Commander_path%\Wcx\Total SQX\TotalSQX.wcx
tio=23,%Commander_path%\wcx\TotalISO\TotalISO.wcx
avi=277,%Commander_path%\WCX\aviwcx\aviwcx.wcx
wipe=5,%Commander_path%\wcx\wipe\wipe.wcx
dircpy=279,%Commander_path%\Wcx\dircpy\dircpy.wcx
mdf=192,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\iso\iso.wcx
gif=287,%Commander_path%\Wcx\Gif\GifWcx.wcx
HardLink=257,%Commander_path%\WCX\CreateHardLink\CreateHardLink.wcx
CopyTree=277,%Commander_path%\WCX\CopyTree\CopyTree.wcx

[DisabledPlugins]
PackerPlugins;479,%Commander_path%\wcx\ResExtract\ResExtract.wcx;pe_res_dummy;=

If I remember correctly, I did it like this, because I wanted Total7zip to handle some archives over TotalObserver, but I am not totally certain about the reasoning.

So you would suggest to replace all Total7zip entries just with

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Total7Zip=735,%COMMANDER_PATH%\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx

and should I do something similar to the iso and Totaliso plugins?

[Dalai]

2Gral
It is necessary if you want to avoid Total7zip trying to identify every file as an archive which can cause a variety of other problems, or if you want to exactly define a specific packer plugin for specific archives/files.

2brahman
You can use one line with 735 instead of many lines, but keep in mind that doing so will tell Total7zip to try to detect each and every file as an archive (due to flag 64 contained within), and you might lose the ability to use a different packer plugin for a specific extension.

735 = 512 + 128 + 64 + 16 + 8 + 4 + 2 + 1. 64 is the flag that tells TC to try this plugin to detect the file as an archive based in its contents.

Regards
Dalai

[petermad]

So you would suggest to replace all Total7zip entries just with

NO, just the one for 7z.

here is my list.

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[PackerPlugins]
bat=279,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\WCX\makebat\makebat.wcx
bz2=251,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\wcx_bz2\bzip2dll.wcx
bzip2=251,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\wcx_bz2\bzip2dll.wcx
blat=277,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Blat\blat.wcx
lst=21,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\diskdir\diskdir.wcx
lstW=21,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\diskdirW\diskdirW.wcx
lstC=23,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\CatalogMaker\CatalogMaker.wcx
CopyTree=277,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\CopyTree\CopyTree.wcx
sqx=607,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total SQX\TotalSQX.wcx
chm=479,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\WCX\CHMDir\CHMDir.wcx
its=479,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\WCX\CHMDir\CHMDir.wcx
icl=15,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\WCX\ICLRead\ICLRead.wcx
zpaq=535,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\zpaq\zpaq.wcx
png=327,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wlx\Imagine\Imagine.wcx
gif=287,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\GifWcx\GifWcx.wcx
xlst=31,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\DiskDirExtended\DiskDirExtended.wcx64
7zip=223,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\WCX\7zip\7zip.wcx
7z_7z=223,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\WCX\7zip\7zip.wcx
7z_jar=95,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\WCX\7zip\7zip.wcx
7z=735,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
wim=735,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
xz=731,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
flv=964,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
iso=196,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
7zip_7z=735,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
7zip_zip=735,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
7zip_tar=733,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
7zip_gzip=731,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
7zip_bzip2=731,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
7zip_jar=212,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
7zip_arj=196,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
7zip_rar=196,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
7zip_cab=708,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
7zip_xpi=212,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Total7zip\Total7zip.wcx
zip0=277,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Zip2Zero\zip2zero.wcx
setfolderdate=263,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\SetFolderDate\setfolderdate.wcx
Separate=263,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\Mover\mover.wcx
GraphConv=263,%COMMANDER_PATH%\PLUGINS\wcx\GraphicConverter\GraphicConverter.wcx

Then I also have made this internal association:

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[Associations]
Filter8=*.7z
Filter8_open=**
Filter8_Internal 7zip=**internal_7z
Filter8_Total7zip plugin=**7z
Filter8_7zip plugin=**7z_7z

Change the 8 to fit your list. With this association I can right click on a 7z file and in the top of the context menu choose between opening it with TC-s internal 7z unpacker - with Total7zip plugin or with the 7zip plugin.

[Fla$her]

the context menu choose between opening it with ...

What for? Is there a problem with the internal unpacker?

[petermad]

What for? Is there a problem with the internal unpacker?

If the Total7zip is registered for .7z files (with the option 735), then if I press Enter or double-click on a .7z file it is the plugin that opens the file, and the plugin that unpacks the file - NOT the internal unpacker (Tc7z64.dll). So the context menu entries are practical if you want to test the other two opening and unpacking methods on the file. That's all - maybe not something the average user needs though.

Also if I want to ad some file to the .7z archive by copying to the opened archive, then I can use the context menu when you open the file, to determine whether you want the packing done by the Total7zip or the 7zip plugin. (if you choose to open the file with the internal 7z packer, you cannot copy files to the archive)

[brahman]

Thank you very much!

[Fla$her]

2petermad
I don't understand why you have Filter5_open=** ? This means that when you select the first item, the file will be opened by an external program or Explorer. In addition, there is no need to use the standard context menu. It's much more convenient to use the hotkey with cm_ContextMenuInternalCursor.

Here are my settings:

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Filter5=*.7z;*.7zip
Filter5_open=**internal_7z
Filter5.icon=%COMMANDER_EXE%,8
Filter5_Total7zip=**7z

[petermad]

This means that when you select the first item, the file will be opened by an external program or Explorer

Not in this case - in this case it means that TC will use TC's default way of opening .7z files - in my case with Total7zip. The Filter8_open=** setting does NOT result in an item in the context menu - so my first item in the context menu is "Internal 7zip"

I tried your setting, and when pressing Enter /double-click on a .7z file it will open it with the Internal unpacker, and then I cannot ADD files to the archive, which is unacceptable to me.

I tried your setting - it seems that you didn't bother to try mine...?

It's much more convenient to use the hotkey with cm_ContextMenuInternalCursor.

If I set up a hotkey for the cm_ContextMenuInternalCursor, I'll have to remember that hotkey for the rare occasions, where I don't want the file opened with Total/zip.