Unexpected redraw and delayed response to action & unexpected behavior

[petermad]

If look fairly OK to me: https://tcmd.madsenworld.dk/TC1155rc4pluginsearch.mp4 - but I don't see much differente from TC11.55rc3: https://tcmd.madsenworld.dk/TC1155rc3pluginsearch.mp4

But it would be nice if we could get rid of that vertical scrollbar popping up

[white]

I cannot reproduce the problem with scrollbars.

Use normal mode (not dark) and 64-bit TC, and add a forth row (or higher). For the Change Attributes dialog it starts with the first row (in normal mode and in dark mode, 64-bit only).

[AntonyD]

https://www.upload.ee/files/18145971/record_2025_05_27_17_14_49_582.mp4.html
see the speed of rules' GUI forming "on-a-fly" )))) ?
almost 7 seconds!

[petermad]

2AntonyD
I see a small (½ sec) lag especially the first time I click on the Plugins tab - but not when going from Plugins to Advanced tab and back to Plugins.

https://tcmd.madsenworld.dk/TC1155rc4pluginsearchopen.mp4

Maybe it is an OS-problem Window 10/11 can be slow.

[white]

The drawing of the controls when moving up or down did improve.

It does indeed take a long time when using Windows 11, which creates funny behavior when doing the following.
* Add rows until the maximum of 20 rows is reached.
* Close the search dialog.
* Open Search again and press Ctrl+Tab repeatedly with the intend to reach the Load/Save tab (so you can load a saved search). The focus jumps back to the Plugins tab until it's fully loaded.

It also looks odd that the checkbox before "Search in plugins" is enabled by default and then disabled by default when the dialog is fully loaded.

Moving a row up or down seems only possible with 7 rows or less (64-bit only).

[petermad]

Moving a row up or down seems only possible with 7 rows or less (64-bit only).

Here on Windows 7 with standard font and DPI setting I can move a row when less than 9 rows are chosen - that is the amount that fits in the window when scrolled to the bottom.

But as you can see here: https://tcmd.madsenworld.dk/TC1155rc4pluginsearch8items.mp4 it can be difficult to get the moving going...

[ghisler(Author)]

I did not change anything to the loading code. All I changed was the code to change the field sort order.

Use normal mode (not dark) and 64-bit TC, and add a forth row (or higher). For the Change Attributes dialog it starts with the first row (in normal mode and in dark mode, 64-bit only).

Thanks, I can reproduce it now. Disabling redrawing of the container control (the one with the scrollbars) seems to fix that.

[ghisler(Author)]

Could you check again with RC5, please? I only changed the sorting function, not the loading function.

[AntonyD]

glitches with GUI are the same. Speed of initial redrawing is also the same slow. Nothing changed at all...

[white]

Use normal mode (not dark) and 64-bit TC, and add a forth row (or higher). For the Change Attributes dialog it starts with the first row (in normal mode and in dark mode, 64-bit only).

Thanks, I can reproduce it now. Disabling redrawing of the container control (the one with the scrollbars) seems to fix that.

The scroll bar flickering seems to be unchanged in TC 11.55rc5.

Could you check again with RC5, please? I only changed the sorting function, not the loading function.

What changed? And how is it supposed to work? Moving a row up or down with the mouse is only possible when all rows fit in the dialog?

I think the help page should be improved too. Currently the help page starts with:

Plugins

This page allows you to search using content plugins, e.g. for special file attributes or contents. You can find additional content plugins on our homepage. Note: Content plugins only work with the normal file system (files and directories), but not with virtual folders like the desktop, ftp connections, files in archives, or file system plugins. Entries can be sorted manually with Ctrl cursor up/down or via arrow buttons.

I suggest to move the line about sorting before the note, and to rephrase the line somewhat. Like this:

Plugins

This page allows you to search using content plugins, e.g. for special file attributes or contents. You can find additional content plugins on our homepage. Search rules can be sorted with Ctrl+cursor up/down or via arrow buttons. Note: Content plugins only work with the normal file system (files and directories), but not with virtual folders like the desktop, ftp connections, files in archives, or file system plugins.

Changes made:

• Moved the sentence, integrating it into the main description and ensuring users read it before reading about limitations.
• Replaced "Entries" with "Search rules", which is less vague than entries.
• Removed "manually", which is only confusing.
• Added a plus sign (Ctrl+cursor up/down) for consistency and improving readability.

I also think an explanation of the arrow buttons should be added at the end, to the list of fields and controls and their meaning.

[AntonyD]

https://www.upload.ee/files/18178107/record_2025_06_05_14_06_28_17.mp4.html
Just to avoid writing too much - just to look and understand - how nothing has become better, or even worse.
In the video, you can see that sometimes the buttons are not even rendered at all.

[petermad]

In TC 11.55rc5 I can confirm that the vertical scrollbar does no longer flicker up when moving an item up or down.

But I can also confirm that when changing the the Property value of an item then the vertical scrollbar flickers as seen in AntonyD's vide0: https://www.upload.ee/files/18178107/record_2025_06_05_14_06_28_17.mp4.html

The vertical scrollbar also flickers when adding more rules.

[AntonyD]

Why does no one confirm the problem when adding rules?
Don't you have such a strange rendering - when even buttons sometimes do not render in time?
Let's look at the period from 22 to 37 seconds.

[petermad]

2AntonyD

Why does no one confirm the problem when adding rules?

I did - one post above yours.

[AntonyD]

2petermad
I agree that you described/confirmed the problem, but it is not entirely related to ONLY flickered scrollbars.
In my video, the rendering issue of ALL components of the new rule is visible - AND only IN addition there is a problem with the scrollbars.
That is, these are two issues in essence. This is clearly noticeable by the fact that the two buttons located below the last rule sometimes
simply do not render at all.
Let's look at 25/26/27 seconds and see that all the last rule components are there, but there are no buttons under it.

And the overall global slowdown of the entire rendering process - as if I had rolled back about 15 years in computer hardware.