ACDSee VS IrfanView?
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ACDSee VS IrfanView?
What is more powerfull and good..?!
I agree that Irfanview is great, especially for large files, where it is just about the only image viewer that doesn't take ages to load the image, not to mention crashes the program... (yes, I have an old, small, slow computer).
There are some things that bug me with I-view, though. One is the peculiar keyboard shortcuts, which in themselves are fine enough (S=save-as, just to pick one example), but which you have to learn for this program alone. Another is that in full-screen mode you can't navigate between pictures with the standard keys if the picture is zoomed wider than the screen, because then the arrow keys will move within the picture. Also, it doesn't save a picture if you rotate it, so you have to do that manually.
Another nice alternative is FastStone Viewer. One nice detail is that it automatically smooths out the pixels if you zoom in very close. Also, navigation and editing works in a very nice and intuitive way.
But it IS a bit slow...
There are some things that bug me with I-view, though. One is the peculiar keyboard shortcuts, which in themselves are fine enough (S=save-as, just to pick one example), but which you have to learn for this program alone. Another is that in full-screen mode you can't navigate between pictures with the standard keys if the picture is zoomed wider than the screen, because then the arrow keys will move within the picture. Also, it doesn't save a picture if you rotate it, so you have to do that manually.
Another nice alternative is FastStone Viewer. One nice detail is that it automatically smooths out the pixels if you zoom in very close. Also, navigation and editing works in a very nice and intuitive way.
But it IS a bit slow...
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Options / Misc.1 / Display 'Save'-Dialog for 'File->Save'S=save-as, just to pick one example
For jpg files download the Jpg_Transform plugin, it saves automatically and rotates lossless!Also, it doesn't save a picture if you rotate it, so you have to do that manually
Options / Viewing / Use "Resample" function for Fit-Options and Full-Screen modeOne nice detail is that it automatically smooths out the pixels if you zoom in very close.
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Sorry but the standard keys to move between Pictures are from the beginning of IrfanView <Space> - Next Picture and <BackSpace> - Last Pictureeyolf wrote:Another is that in full-screen mode you can't navigate between pictures with the standard keys if the picture is zoomed wider than the screen, because then the arrow keys will move within the picture.

Autosave after rotate is not allways usefull what is if you rotated in the wrong direction ? (the other left...)eyolf wrote: Also, it doesn't save a picture if you rotate it, so you have to do that manually.

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Sir_SiLvA wrote: Sorry but the standard keys to move between Pictures are from the beginning of IrfanView <Space> - Next Picture and <BackSpace> - Last Picture
Arghh, now that you say so, I remember having thought that those were some stupid standard keys to use... So there was a reason for it after all...
Sir_SiLvA wrote: Autosave after rotate is not allways usefull what is if you rotated in the wrong direction ? (the other left...)
Why would I make such a stupid mistake?

Besides, if conversion is lossless (as in the plugin that SanskritFritz linked to - thanks!), what does it matter?[/code]
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Actually the plugins gui is a little awkward, so i immediately wrote an AutoHotkey macro to control it:Why would I make such a stupid mistake?
Besides, if conversion is lossless (as in the plugin that SanskritFritz linked to - thanks!), what does it matter?
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; Alt-Left (IrfanView: Lossless rotate left)
~!Left:: funcLosslessRotate("L")
; Alt-Right (IrfanView: Lossless rotate right)
~!Right:: funcLosslessRotate("R")
funcLosslessRotate( sDirection )
{
WinGetClass sWindowClass, A
if (sWindowClass="IrfanView" or sWindowClass="FullViewClass")
{
Send +j
WinWaitActive JPG - Lossless transformations,, 2
if (ErrorLevel = 0)
{
if (sDirection="R")
Send !r{ENTER}
else
Send !l{ENTER}
}
}
}

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And I can really recommend that update! It's the first version which uses the new method to pass images to Total Commander/Lister, bypassing the clipboard! With this new method, much less memory is used, so Lister can now show much bigger images than before!IrfanView 3.97 now available for downloading.
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Hi Frank!
- The "JPEG Lossless Transformations" are built-in XnView for ages ! And that doesn't need any patching with a script or whatever…
- About the use with TC for Lister and thumbnails, the same new feature is done, it'll come with the next XnView 1.75 soon, I think...
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- The "JPEG Lossless Transformations" are built-in XnView for ages ! And that doesn't need any patching with a script or whatever…
- About the use with TC for Lister and thumbnails, the same new feature is done, it'll come with the next XnView 1.75 soon, I think...

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OK, that's right ...The "JPEG Lossless Transformations" are built-in XnView for ages ! And that doesn't need any patching with a script or whatever...
... but as long as XnView doesn't rotate JPEGs automatically according their built-in EXIF orientation flag,
it's far behind IrfanView (... and some more reasons).
Even Imagine includes that feature. (Thanks again to nyam!

And I wonder if the next XnView will do ...

BTW: The best for JPEG images from DigiCams is cPicture - IMHO of course!

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Hello Roman !
- True ! Transmission from the author of XnView (who has read that thread…) :
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- True ! Transmission from the author of XnView (who has read that thread…) :
« This feature existed already in XView before than it be added in IrfanView. … Currently, the servers {used by XnView, including the Forum one} have been attacked, this takes time to repair and delays the release of the last version …- Pierre-E. Gougelet. »

Claude
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Zitat:
but as long as XnView doesn't rotate JPEGs automatically according their built-in EXIF orientation flag
It already does.
I've just checked it - I think 1.74 is the last version - it doesn't.

What I ment is, automatic rotation of the *view* of thumbnails and fullscreen JPEGs,
without changing anything in the file itsself.
IrfanView, Imagine and cPicture do that well with images from my Canon Ixus 400, XnView doesn't.
[Edit] The camera gives perfect EXIF information! [/Edit]
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