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No.
To "insert" is "to put or introduce into something", normally BETWEEN two things. You could say 'insert before' or 'insert after' but that does not connote that the thing you inserted becomes absolutely the head or tail of the list. It's ambiguous, as icfu says.
OTOH, prepending definitely implies attaching to the very beginning with nothing ahead of it, and appending to the very end, with nothing after it. Subtle difference.
"Prepend" is actually quite a newish word dreamed up when computers came along. You'd think that there would be a corresponding word "postpend" - but there isn't, AFAIK.
No.
To "insert" is "to put or introduce into something", normally BETWEEN two things. You could say 'insert before' or 'insert after' but that does not connote that the thing you inserted becomes absolutely the head or tail of the list. It's ambiguous, as icfu says.
OTOH, prepending definitely implies attaching to the very beginning with nothing ahead of it, and appending to the very end, with nothing after it. Subtle difference.
"Prepend" is actually quite a newish word dreamed up when computers came along. You'd think that there would be a corresponding word "postpend" - but there isn't, AFAIK.
Good comments! I will fix my wrong word next time.
When I added 'Append' function first, CMP appended files to the end of playlist. But I changed the order for new files to come at the beginning of playlist.
And I changed the method for you to choose the order.. But the problem is.. I failed to notice the meaning of 'Append'.
Ok. 'Prepend' is good.. But there isn't the word 'Prepend' in my dictionary.. I think 'Prepend' is a newish word as you say..
When I added 'Append' function first, CMP appended files to the end of playlist. But I changed the order for new files to come at the beginning of playlist.
And I changed the method for you to choose the order.. But the problem is.. I failed to notice the meaning of 'Append'.
Ok. 'Prepend' is good.. But there isn't the word 'Prepend' in my dictionary.. I think 'Prepend' is a newish word as you say..
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I found the word 'Prefix' from the commentary..
So.. 'Prepend' is good, And 'Prefix' is better.
I guess that following sentences are good enough for understanding.
1) New files are prefixed to the playlist.
2) New files are added to the beginning of the playlist.
And Thanks for all of you for good comments. Fluent English is a distant mountain to me.
I found the word 'Prefix' from the commentary..
So.. 'Prepend' is good, And 'Prefix' is better.
I guess that following sentences are good enough for understanding.
1) New files are prefixed to the playlist.
2) New files are added to the beginning of the playlist.
And Thanks for all of you for good comments. Fluent English is a distant mountain to me.
It's in the Wiktionary, so it must be right:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prepend
A really good reason for why "prepend" is right you can find here:
http://www.hacker-dictionary.com/terms/prepend
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http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prepend
A really good reason for why "prepend" is right you can find here:
http://www.hacker-dictionary.com/terms/prepend
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Hi TC2MP,
As Hacker correctly points out - it's a question of scale. Attaching a small number of characters? Then prefix/suffix are the right terms to use. Anything more, like a list of files, then prepend/append are what you need.
For example, you wouldn't 'suffix' a file list to the end of an item - you would append it.
Hope that makes some sense.
Another word you could use is 'affix' which means 'to attach'. But then you would have to qualify it by saying 'affix to the beginning' and 'affix to the end' which means using 4 words when just 1 would have done the job.
Let's avoid discussing 'postfix'!
As Hacker correctly points out - it's a question of scale. Attaching a small number of characters? Then prefix/suffix are the right terms to use. Anything more, like a list of files, then prepend/append are what you need.
For example, you wouldn't 'suffix' a file list to the end of an item - you would append it.
Hope that makes some sense.
Another word you could use is 'affix' which means 'to attach'. But then you would have to qualify it by saying 'affix to the beginning' and 'affix to the end' which means using 4 words when just 1 would have done the job.
Let's avoid discussing 'postfix'!
Mmm.. very difficult only for me.
I think it's right 'Prefix' is usually used mainly with characters and other serial data flow..
Ok.. my conclusion is..
'Prepend' would be best! Thanks for Hacker and SQUIRE
I will reflect it into CMP next time of upgrade. Thanks.
P.S.)
The reason I use 'prefix' than 'prepend' above is.. some non-English speaking users may not realize the meaning of 'prepend', because it's a newish word.
But I think now that users using Total Commander and CMP will accept the word 'Prepend' naturally, because they are skillful users in Computer world.
And I think it's good idea to use slash - a-ppend, pre-pend.. Is it suitable?
I think it's right 'Prefix' is usually used mainly with characters and other serial data flow..
Ok.. my conclusion is..
'Prepend' would be best! Thanks for Hacker and SQUIRE
I will reflect it into CMP next time of upgrade. Thanks.
P.S.)
The reason I use 'prefix' than 'prepend' above is.. some non-English speaking users may not realize the meaning of 'prepend', because it's a newish word.
But I think now that users using Total Commander and CMP will accept the word 'Prepend' naturally, because they are skillful users in Computer world.
And I think it's good idea to use slash - a-ppend, pre-pend.. Is it suitable?
It has nothing to do with scale at all...
Prefixing means "adding in front of something and change the meaning of that something".
Prepending means "adding in front of something and keep the meaning of that something intact".
Example:
If you "prefix" a line of code with a semicolon, you want to express that the interpreter does NOT execute the command after the semicolon. The semicolon changes the meaning of that line.
If you instead "prepend" a semicolon to a line of code, you want to express that the interpreter doesn't care about semicolons and executes nevertheless.
So, "prepending" emphasizes the subject (the filenames to add) while "prefixing" emphasizes the objects (the already existing filenames).
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Prefixing means "adding in front of something and change the meaning of that something".
Prepending means "adding in front of something and keep the meaning of that something intact".
Example:
If you "prefix" a line of code with a semicolon, you want to express that the interpreter does NOT execute the command after the semicolon. The semicolon changes the meaning of that line.
If you instead "prepend" a semicolon to a line of code, you want to express that the interpreter doesn't care about semicolons and executes nevertheless.
So, "prepending" emphasizes the subject (the filenames to add) while "prefixing" emphasizes the objects (the already existing filenames).
Nope, the word is "prepend". You mean a hyphen, not slash.And I think it's good idea to use slash - a-ppend, pre-pend.. Is it suitable?
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I really like those definitions! Very nice, clean and logical and much better than using scale as a criterion. Digging a bit deeper, it seems the word 'prepend' existed in 1568, but had a completely different meaning from the one we know today. So we can't even say it's new at all even though its meaning is new.icfu wrote:Prefixing means "adding in front of something and change the meaning of that something".
Prepending means "adding in front of something and keep the meaning of that something intact".
You won't find pre-pend spelt that way in a dictionary nowadays.TC2MP wrote:And I think it's good idea to use slash - a-ppend, pre-pend.. Is it suitable?
As for append, it's never been spelt ap-pend.
Best stick to the single word to avoid causing confusion!