Total Commander

Thanks MVV for your note but believe it or not, the spelling is correct. When I tried to use the IniEd plugin, it complained and said that "More than one configuration sections already exists" and it terminated. I then copied the second configuration section and pasted it into the first one making sure that I got rid of duplicates. When reloaded TC, it created a new configuration section. When I deleted the first one, I lost many settings so I reverted back with Ctrl-Z so now I have two configuration sections.

I'm using Win 7 64 by the way. My XP has only one configuration section.

Maybe you can move all keys from first Configuration section to second one? Then you may delete first section.

My XP has only one configuration section.

And the same is your Win 7 x64 supposed to. So something has gone sour in you TC installation.

Try and start your TC with a fresh ini file by starting it with the parameter /i=newtc.ini - make a few changes in TC's configuration and close TC. Then start TC again with the same parameter ( /i=newtc.ini), make som more changes to the configuration and close TC again - now check if you have two [Configuration] sections in newtc.ini - I guess not.

It's not causing any problems so why fix something that ain't broken? It just confused me a little. Right now the InactiveFocus is experimental so as soon as it is not, I'm assuming ghisler will add an option to TC's configuration - options and hopefully provide the option to use inverted cursors.

It's not causing any problems so why fix something that ain't broken?

How abot this problem:

When I tried to use the IniEd plugin, it complained and said that "More than one configuration sections already exists" and it terminated.

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I'm assuming ghisler will add an option to TC's configuration

That will not be in TC 8.0 because it needs translation, and Ghisler usually won't have the trouble of getting translations from all the translators for such a small thing. It can take Month(s) to get all translations.

Thanks for the info petermad (are you really mad by the way?). By the way, never say never. Haven't you learnt yet from Steve Jobs?

are you really mad by the way?)

No it is short for Madsen - The first email I ever got back in 1994 was assigned by the ISP and was petermad@... and i have kept that as my internet handle.

Thanks Ghisler for adding this feature. It really simplifies a lot of my file management stuff.

MVV wrote:Christian, it would be great to have inactive inverted one too (e.g. I'm using inverted cursor always so I wish to see inactive inverted cursor too, but with different color) if user uses inverted cursor.

I agree, MVV. Generally is the dotted cursor to small to recognize the color of it.
If I had to use the 2nd cursor from TC, I would like to have it configurable like the active cursor.

Stance, you may make it solid, but anyway it will be just a frame rectangle. E.g. I've set InactiveFocus=$3FFE0E0 and it looks like my cursor (it has color $FFE0E0) but w/o inverse. But anyway inverted inactive cursor would be great.

As I was trying to point out earlier, TwinKey supports: Alpha-Gradient, Frame, Solid, and Underline. It would of been nice for TC's native feature to be as useful (or more so) than the existing working one for TC 7.56.

Much like when TC got SubMenu's on the Buttonbar, they lost all the useful features that MGP's TCMenu.exe had:

1) Custom Icon Size per SubMenu (not a single Global value that affects all subMenus)
2) Custom Color for Menu's (background/text).
A) Gradients for Menu background.
B) Gradients for Menu selection/highlight; Color setting for highlighted text.
3) Default Actions.
A) Ctrl+Click set the default action for the SubMenu.
B) Click, execute default action/command (do not show menu).
C) Click, show the full menu if no default action has been set.
D) Shift+Click - show the full menu.
E) Ctrl+Click - show the full menu; Click change default action/command.

The problem with TCMenu.exe, as it is a 3rd party app it needs special syntax to handle TC's internal (eg %S) vars. And can't handle large selections due to messaging limitations (though I suppose one could switch %S et al to %L ... which would mean more redundant disk writes to create filelists for every usage).

MVV wrote:Stance, you may make it solid, but anyway it will be just a frame rectangle. E.g. I've set InactiveFocus=$3FFE0E0 and it looks like my cursor (it has color $FFE0E0) but w/o inverse. But anyway inverted inactive cursor would be great.

Thx, the -so far- actual values for the ini-settings were posted here:
http://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=233519#233519
Yes, I have changed it to a solid frame ($3......) and I still can't see a difference between the different colors, that I have choosen.
A native inverted inactive cursor will be the best.

I like the opportunities from TwinKey (TC-"addon") better and therefor I will switch back whenever it is supporting x64.

TCMenu.exe - another very useful tool from MGP for the Total Commander, was replaced by the native dropdownmenus that were introduced later. When I remember right, that program was developed as an addon for the explorer or a starter for the desktop. Later is was ported for to extend the functionality of the TCs buttonbar. So my guess is, the development of the following window-operating systems made it harder/impossible to keep it up to date.


For all these freeware, plugins, addons (and for the TC-updates) it is like: Take it or leave it. Never before has a complaint helped to realize a function. This feature was expected much earlier! Many users today use only x64-based computers and there is no guarantee that TwinKey64 will come!


I still have the hope that some plugin-developer find the time and use the very basic funktions from TC like inactive cursor or SubMenus and create something better out of it.


And even more I hope that the TC-developer will have better sales with the new features, because we all love the free updates!

Edit: Corrected link to Ini-settings for inactive crsor

although the inverted inactive cursor would be the best solution, the current solution does do a wonderful job. It really simplifies tracking files when doing drags & drops. Thanks again Ghisler.

We can't really assume that TWinKey will ever be in 64 so working with what we've got is good enough even though I use the 32bit version of TC to keep plugins like AceHelper.

One thing to keep in mind. WE DO NOT WISH FOR TC TO BECOME BLOATED. Let's leave that to the plugins and keep TC as small and elegant as possible.

Thanks, this new feature works great. Will we see an option on the colour tab in configuration? Just to make choosing colours and types easier?

ghisler(Author) wrote:I'm testing it right now, but find it very confusing because it's less clear which one is the active panel now.

ghisler(Author) wrote:I mean that it's more difficult for the user to see which panel is the active one and which is the inactive one, since both have a caret/cursor indicator now...

I don't know if we get the "inverted inactive cursor", but if it will be optional from the Ini-file, Plugin-programmers can use this for a point to start from.


The same goes for the often requested "Colored Folder Tabs" - when Ghisler creates some basic functions, other programmers can make something bigger/better out of it.


On one hand, the developer thinks, to keep the TC slim and fast when "outsourcing" functions. If bugs arise, the developer don't have to support 3rd party software like the MGP.

But my thought is: Plugins and Addons are made for to extend the functiality of the framework. To keep TC stable, fast and secure. But I don't want to use 3rd party apps to configure the Total Commander.

(1) Inactive Cursor, (2) fully working dropdown menus and (3) colored Tabs are nowadays core-functions of a filemanager. The making and configuration of these functions used to be in Ghislers hands. It could be, that one day the user can download all these tools from Ghislers site, with digital signature, but with restricted guarantee, on the own risk.

If it will be like that, it will help to show that the TC offers more than other (freeware) competitors. And when the Double Commander(*) is ready, the TC will stand (like we say here) naked in the rain. Do I have to mention now that these TC-Extensions must not fit the regular TC-Plugin interface(*)?

About the colored Tabs:
In this german thread the Developer (Ghisler) replied (3 days ago):
http://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=234892#234892
Please use Google to translate it: http://translate.google.com/
My posting in this thread was 4 years ago...(Google Translation)

Please use the forum-search and bump up some old requests about the "Colored Folder Tabs".