programs similar to total commander

[ghisler(Author)]

Btw, TC 6.0 will have some limited Unicode support. The following already works:
- Renaming of Unicode file names in place
- Copying and Moving of files with Unicode names
- Launching (Enter)
- Lister, Editor, Alt+Enter

The following will not work:
- Zipping, unzipping (zip files don't support Unicode in their format)
- Unicode dirs will be opened with their DOS name, but can be copied with their Unicode name

The following may be supported in a later version
- synchronize dirs (would require too many changes)
- encode/decode (problem with name encodings)
- split/combine (problem with crc file containing ansi name)
- multi-rename tool

[VadiMGP]

- Unicode dirs will be opened with their DOS name, but can be copied with their Unicode name

Sorry, i didn't understand, what do you mean "open directory with DOS name"? CD command will accept DOS name only?

[Sven]

thx for tips, SpeedCommander doesn't support UNICODE

It does, the current beta version 9.2 is available in Ansi and Unicode.

[Innuendo]

SpeedCommander does support Unicode, but you have to download the special Unicode version.

AB Commander does support it, but it's tricky and kind of a "cheat." Near as I can tell the file manager windows are just Explorer windows held together by the AB Commander "shell" i.e., however you have Windows Explorer set up and whatever file extensions installed is how AB Commander will look and act because the program is just a "window" looking at two Explorer windows...if that makes sense? It's like a skin/shell.

[Innuendo]

Christian,

Good news about Unicode support in the next version. I have no use for it personally, but the internet is global & Unicode is the way of the future to bind the world together using the same programs.

One day all programs will have to support Unicode fully in order to survive and be successful.

[qda]

awesome guys, thanks for the replies, didnt expect to see so many different ones

[Hammillian7]

Hello to all:

My first post here. I'm a fanatic user of WC and TC (and, previously, of NC).

I definitely need to keep foder time when copying or moving file trees between logical units.

I requested it to be added to WC; I've seen a thread about it in this forum, but the conclusion doesn't satisfy me). It could be done in the core of TC or with plugins.

Maybe not many people miss it, but I do miss it a lot (the 2 features that I miss more are this one and the possibility to add Alt-F7 search results inside archives to file lists (with the limitations that would be necessary).

But meanwhile, by chance anybody knows any file manager or archiver that does keep folder dates?.

Thanks.

[Hacker]

But meanwhile, by chance anybody knows any file manager or archiver that does keep folder dates?

WinRAR does.

HTH
Roman

[norfie]

[norfie]

[Hammillian7]

But meanwhile, by chance anybody knows any file manager or archiver that does keep folder dates?

WinRAR does.

HTH
Roman

Yes, thank you. After I read it in that thread I started using RAR, which is the best solution I now know.

I use it from TC, but it has the limitation that it doesn't allow you to extract intermediate folders (just root or last).

Besides, it loses time date for the outer (root) folders, so I have to add a temporary outer folder and move trees inside and outside it.

By the way, any idea of how to extract just the empty folder tree structure (without files)? I do it now after deleting all files selected with Ctl-B, but sometimes I just want to preserve the tree structure to keep their dates, but without deleting the files.

[jb]

The following will not work:
- Zipping, unzipping (zip files don't support Unicode in their format)

IMO it is not bad idea: in this cases old 8.3-names should be used
see also
(german) http://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=735#9310

I think that's a really bad idea in general because files names can carry very useful information. Some people spend quite a time to find good files names as they do for e-mail subjects, forum subjects, chapter titles, class names, variable names and so on.
I would much rather use RAR archives. According to the online help of WinRAR V3.20 they support Unicode in file names.

[Hacker]

sometimes I just want to preserve the tree structure to keep their dates,

Use the -x@%L parameter in the Parameters filed of TC's Button Bar (or Start menu). Then you only need to do a Ctrl-B, select all files and start the packing process using the button or the Start menu command. WinRAR will ignore all the selected files and create a RAR with an empty directory structure.
The parameters field could look like this:

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a -r -x@%L test *.*

Of course, tweak it to your needs.

I hope this was what you were looking for.

HTH
Roman

[norfie]

[jb]

It goes without saying that you can choose RAR instead of ZIP. But that was not the point.

The point is to know that RAR is an excellent alternative that supports Unicode while ZIP does not. Only then you make a proper choice.