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Posted: 2007-11-21, 15:39 UTC
by JohnFredC
Ah, I see your point... But neither SC or Dopus make TC's artificial (and limiting) distinction between menus and toolbars. For those products, menus and toolbars are conceptually (and practically) interchangeable. Tool buttons on menus, menus on toolbars. That sort of thing. Build any kind of interface you want.

But you knew that, right?

Posted: 2007-11-22, 07:48 UTC
by nsp
if you exclusivelly use the "user command" , every command you define is transparently usable in a menu or a toolbar.

You can use nested toolbar, with tc and also have a toolbar switcher (in menu or directly in the bar) that make your toolbar only have what you need !

you can also use powerpro/Ahk/... script to have local toolbar and for me this is enough flexibility.....

But for new TC user, a good distribution with tools, plugins, toolbar editor ... is cruelly missing !

The big difference between TC and most othe new generation commander (SC, DOpus..) is the prepackaged distribution that give you 500% of what you need ! TC is giving you 70 to 120 % of your needs and up to you to design, build,.... you configuration and spend hours reading TC Forum/Wiki.

I have big toolbars, menus, but it takes me some hours to build what i needed from time to time but to be honest i mostly use key centric stuff and __very small dedicated toolbars__ which is much more efficient __when you are trained__ !

Sometime effectivity is not following ease of use and intuitive behaviour.... I have sample where people switch from old legacy screen to brand new web based application and are twice less productive than before ! The only difference is that the manager can now understand what to do to use it 10m once a month !!

Posted: 2007-11-27, 10:51 UTC
by DarkRuleR
JohnFredC wrote:...
Too bad SC doesn't support TC WDX plugins. TC keeps me at home because of them. Those, and the substring selector dialog in the TC multi-rename tool (a real god-send!).
Hi,

Sven from SC has made a WDX plugin wrapper.
So you can use the WDX plugins from TC in SC.

You can find info about it here:
http://blog.speedproject.de/2007/10/31/nichts-ist-unmoeglich-2/
(its in german though)

DR...

Posted: 2007-11-27, 11:16 UTC
by icfu
WFX != WDX

Icfu

Posted: 2007-11-27, 12:33 UTC
by DarkRuleR
icfu wrote:WFX != WDX

Icfu
Thanx Icfu...

Seems I need some glasses.
;)

Posted: 2007-11-27, 12:46 UTC
by fenix_productions
2nsp
nsp wrote:But for new TC user, a good distribution with tools, plugins, toolbar editor ... is cruelly missing !
Aren't TC Ultima Prime or TC Power Pack good enough?

Posted: 2007-11-27, 13:57 UTC
by m^2
fenix_productions wrote:2nsp
nsp wrote:But for new TC user, a good distribution with tools, plugins, toolbar editor ... is cruelly missing !
Aren't TC Ultima Prime or TC Power Pack good enough?
I would add Total Commander eXtended Pack to the list. Actually at the first place. But unfortunately, just as with TCPP, the authors seem to don't want / have no time to update it.

Posted: 2007-11-27, 14:50 UTC
by fenix_productions
2m^2
No time is a right option (seen in other thread).
Btw. TC XP link seems to not working in my Opera...

Posted: 2007-11-27, 15:40 UTC
by m^2
fenix_productions wrote:2m^2
No time is a right option (seen in other thread).
Btw. TC XP link seems to not working in my Opera...
Mistake, corrected :oops:

Posted: 2007-11-27, 16:19 UTC
by eugensyl
m^2 wrote: IEView & Ctrl+Q
Petermad wrote: Then remap Ctrl+A to cm_SelectAllBoth !
There is two keys instead of one push.

Thanks everyone!

Posted: 2007-11-27, 16:49 UTC
by StickyNomad
2eugensyl
There is two keys instead of one push.
No. You just have to assign 'cm_SelectAllBoth' once to the Ctrl+A shortcut. After that, Ctrl+A will always select files and folders when pressed.

Posted: 2007-11-27, 19:24 UTC
by nsp
fenix_productions wrote:2nsp
Aren't TC Ultima Prime or TC Power Pack good enough?
m^2 wrote: I would add Total Commander eXtended Pack to the list. Actually at the first place. But unfortunately, just as with TCPP, the authors seem to don't want / have no time to update it.
2fenix_productions and 2m^2
The distributions are not well documented and are not distributed in the official TC homePage.

Tc XP was known to distribute an automatic push button Launcher for TC, it only distribute 6.56 version.

TC PowerPack is not so maintained (version 1.7 does not include TC 7.0) and is a polish oriented distro !!!!

TC UP is the most active and have a page with plenty of languages....

For me a distribution should also include an unified help, unified tutorial, and unified documentation....

Posted: 2007-11-27, 19:51 UTC
by m^2
nsp wrote:Tc XP was known to distribute an automatic push button Launcher for TC, it only distribute 6.56 version.
Never heard of it, at least the current one doesn't have it.
nsp wrote:For me a distribution should also include an unified help, unified tutorial, and unified documentation....
Agree, definitely.
TC UP has quite good documentation, I think. At least the online one.

Posted: 2007-11-28, 06:31 UTC
by nsp
m^2 wrote: TC UP has quite good documentation, I think. At least the online one.
You are right, TC UP have documentation, help file, and support different languages....

But TC UP is :
Too big ( < 200Mio on disk and 70Mio to dowload )
Too many external application.

A light TC UP would be a perfect candidate once Mr Ghisler put a link on TC page and inside the help file to point on some "all in one" distribution.

Posted: 2007-11-28, 07:09 UTC
by m^2
nsp wrote:
m^2 wrote: TC UP has quite good documentation, I think. At least the online one.
You are right, TC UP have documentation, help file, and support different languages....

But TC UP is :
Too big ( < 200Mio on disk and 70Mio to dowload )
Too many external application.
The next version, coming out on sunday, will let you choose the components you want to install. You'll still have to download the big package though.