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Posted: 2009-04-18, 14:01 UTC
by lpg
2Samuel

sorry, I thought 1.) is what you wanted most.
And as an optional feature that I can have beside the current behaviour you have my vote! :)

I'm definitivly with you for the implementation of 2, 3, and 4.

Posted: 2009-04-18, 14:12 UTC
by Samuel
No problem. With the time thinking about it, I realized that I like 2., 3. and 4. more than 1.

Posted: 2009-04-18, 14:14 UTC
by Lefteous
As written before 2 can hardly be implemented without 1.

Posted: 2009-04-18, 14:46 UTC
by lpg
Lefteous wrote:
But isn't that the main purpose of breadcrumbs?
Not necessarily - you could use breadcrumbs when starting above the current level and still navigate to subdirs with panels when starting from the current dir.
Of course you are right. What I meant is that breadcr. are mainly for going down in your folder hierarchy whatever your starting point is.

For me there is a difference: breadcr. are the additional menus under the path not the clickable path itself we already had in TC7.04 but of course they are related.

As far as I understand you can't use the breadrc. (menu) itself for going up - it least for now.

Posted: 2009-04-18, 14:48 UTC
by Lefteous
As far as I understand you can't use the breadrc. (menu) itself for going up - it least for now.
Just click on the underlined path parts...

Posted: 2009-04-18, 16:20 UTC
by petermad
I can support suggestion 2 (configurable), 3 and 4.

Especially 4 would be nice. In the current implementation when navigating by keyboard I have to press left twice and then down to show the breadcrumb menu of the parent dir.

I would rather see the keyboard navigation behave like mouse navigation when BreadcrumbDelayButton=-1 - that is: the parent menu pops up immediately when pressing left in the current menu.

I cannot support suggestion 1 (unless it is optional) - it is simply too confusing!

Posted: 2009-04-18, 16:42 UTC
by lpg
Lefteous wrote:As written before 2 can hardly be implemented without 1.
I like Samuels ideas and I think it would be better to let the starting point be the folder im currently in = the far right and I also think that cone be done without the part I don't like from 1.) what should be shown in the menu:
Samuel wrote:"1. I dont like that the content of an folder is shown. What about to show the alternative folders."
Lefteous wrote:
As far as I understand you can't use the breadrc. (menu) itself for going up - it least for now.
Just click on the underlined path parts...
2Lefteous

I'm not a TC master as you are and you helped me a lot with what you contributed to the forum so a very big thanks for that :D :D :D

So I definetivly don't want to go on your nervs or maybe I'm not as good as explaining in English because I'm from Germany so please be patient :wink: :wink:

I know how the clickable path works but as soon you are in the breadcrumb (=menu) you can't go up from within the menu. You can change the focus to any other folder on the clickable path so another breadcrumb would open and you go from there or click on the path to change to that folder. Or in other words: Every folder in the clickable path has/builds its own breadcrumb menu without an "up" command.

As I said for me there is still a slightly difference between the clickable path we had in V7.04 and the (additional) breadcrumb now - at least for my poor explaining :wink:

So, sorry for stealing your time with this and for all of you: Have a great weekend :) :) :)

Posted: 2009-04-18, 21:13 UTC
by Lefteous
An idea to solve the additional menu open problem in the current path would a button right to the path which opens the subdirs of the current path. It could be just an arrow down just like the desktop breadcrumb menu.

Posted: 2009-04-19, 00:56 UTC
by petermad
the desktop breadcrumb menu
What is "the desktop breadcrumb menu" ?

Posted: 2009-04-19, 01:36 UTC
by Lefteous
The drop down button which opens a breadcrumb menu with displays the Desktop's contents.

Posted: 2009-04-19, 06:48 UTC
by Samuel
In the German forum someone had a similar idea. He also proposed to make the current folder from the alternatives bold. I like that idea.
Lefteous wrote:An idea to solve the additional menu open problem in the current path would a button right to the path which opens the subdirs of the current path. It could be just an arrow down just like the desktop breadcrumb menu.
Could be activated from "*.*". But in my opinion either navigate in the old way (with file panel) or use menu and push 1 time right button is fine.

Hey I understood you this time. :wink:

Posted: 2009-04-19, 09:29 UTC
by Lefteous
Hey I understood you this time.
Are you sure? :-) Activating from *.* would be quite strange. I actually ment an additional button:
www.lefteous.de/tc/beta_7.5/current_dir_breadcrumb_menu_button.png

Posted: 2009-04-19, 09:43 UTC
by Mikefield
Is it possible to disable the desktop breadcrumb menu? It's hard enough to catch the drive letter for "breadcrumbing". :lol:
The desktop breadcrumb menu just disturbs. Otherwise we have the hotlist on the right side, and a 2nd one isn't needed.

mf

Posted: 2009-04-19, 10:09 UTC
by Lefteous
2Mikefield
Well there is an suggestion in this thread to solve this problem...

Posted: 2009-04-19, 10:54 UTC
by Samuel
Lefteous wrote:Are you sure? Activating from *.* would be quite strange. I actually ment an additional button:
Yes I understood you. I just suggested *.* because it would fit in the idea of 1. (in my opinion)

Your idea in the image is also good.