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Esperanto is the biggest flop in the history of created languages (if there is one), it only exists in obscure texts, universities and other stuck up places. It was a nice thought, but unfortunately that's where it has ended (in thought), English is the non-official international language.Esperanto was created in 1887 and still exists.
Remember topic "What language do you use with TC". ThereBlack Dog wrote:... there are a lot of esperantists here. I can't say the number of them can be compatible with one of English speakers, but I know a family there Esperanto is every day internal conversation language. This people regularly visit Esperanto summer camps all other the world so you are not exactly right with "that's where it has ended" 'cause it looks like it is not yet.
Have a wild guess: How many of all these esperantists do contest with English?Black Dog wrote:English is present day Latin - the language of science and education (actually at school I learned it as language of hypothetical enemy but this changes nothing %). This fact is so obvious that people who trying to contest it definitely need medical assistance.
I think this difference has nothing to do with the number of letters/symbols. The point is that the Latin alphabet is normally used to code the sound of natural words instead of their meaning. As far as I know some Asian countries already use also a new "alphabet" that has about the same number of basic symbols as the Latin alphabet and this modern alphabet is used to code the meaning of "words". So they have actually integrated the advantage of the Western way into their system.krojc wrote:This thread is nice. Once I listened to a presentation on languages where someone described how western languages are logical for using 25-30 letters and asian (chinese) complicated for using thousands of signs...
But! all chinese without exception can read same text even thou they have different "languages"!
Funny...
Hi!Furthermore when it comes to listening and speaking then a sound-based coding helps learning foreign "languages". I can imagine that Asian people badly need a second phonetic transcription for this purpose. Does anybody here know for sure?
If I'm awaking in an unknown place with people around me, I'd listen to them and try to find out wich language the y speakJackFoo wrote:Esperanto is the biggest flop in the history of created languages (if there is one), it only exists in obscure texts, universities and other stuck up places. It was a nice thought, but unfortunately that's where it has ended (in thought), English is the non-official international language.Esperanto was created in 1887 and still exists.
Imagine yourself waking up in an unknown place with people around you, the first language you would try is English that has got to say something.
Cheers.
.Back to the issue:Clo wrote:Hello Mr. Ghisler and Dear Forums Users!
• Some problems in TC or features requests are often discussed at the same time on several Forums…
The border of languages causes inescapably mutiple postings / replies for the same subject, and deprives a large part of monolingual users of many infos and solutions. I bet that isn't difficult to find several examples recently
Hence, I thought to a "Rainbow" Forum, where some multilingual users would be allowed to present translated titles, plus a short abstract about an important subject.
• Most certainly, some "bridges" exist sometimes - because of the willingness of someones, thanks to them… - but this may cause full double / triple postings / replies, a bit "illegal" with regard to the Forums Rules.
• Such a Forum could be a little ticklish to start of course, but might become quickly a nice mean of improvement for the TC support. A tentative version could be tested, for insta
nce during one month…
What do you think?
Sorry whether a similar subject existed before, but I got none significant result from the Search…
Best regards, cordiales salutations, mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Claude
Clo
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It is sad, english is today a global language. If people want to have success and jobs is the future world (comming decades), then they are forced to learn english very well.Maybe it's your dream, but isn't realistic: you can't force anybody to learn English as so well as any other language!
• It's a fact that many TC users don't know English, and don't want for learn it.
That's not a good allegory, the "goodness" of a language is measured by it's popularity and distribution, other factors are how easy it is to master, just know barely to be able to communicate, it's richness. All in all English is a very good candidate, prime factors: very spread out (especially on inet), rich both as a day to day language and is an advanced language (most recent techno-advances have names in English first), very easy to learn enough to communicate (look at all the Engrish on inet).Internet Explorer is the "de facto" standard browser on the web (it's the most used). Outlook Express [SNIP] most used.
Got the point?
