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In germany it's forbidden to crack a software or to use a crack. I guess other countries have similar laws.
:) Right, it's the same In France. We have even an official campaign in order the Companies purchase registrations and resign "wild" softs using.
* An official Web-site has been created to help for that…
* For a soft you bought, its the same than for a car : if you patch the car - that is normally forbidden here - an then cause a nice crash, the car insurance company shall send you packing; the same with softs : if precious customers' data are lost, causing important financial losses, no insurance guaranty. All to pay from your own purse.
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¤ In France, the laws which protects the softs are the same than those protecting all creations of the mind like : painting, sculpture, books, music, movies and so on.
¤ Hence, that has two effects :
1. Any modification is illegal - even if you own the product - The Authors can prosecute you.
2. Patents could not be applied to softwares. Unfortunately, this is changing from the E.U. rules…
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cray wrote:Why reward stupid and naive ideas?
It's not stupid, nor naive; you're just a little, insignificant being in the numbers game. So he lost one sale with you, so what? He's already made up for that one with his system. Frankly, you're not the kind of person I want to be a fellow co-supporter with anyway, so I'm glad you have your problems.
Find a better excuse to not pay for something you use.
ask your teacher for the correct spelling of the word "lizense" since it undermines your credibility when accusing people of being childish.
He was mocking you. I don't think you're in a position here to discuss credability.

On a serious note, this behavior doesn't bother me one bit, but I can see why people would want to change it (especially those who travel). It would be nice if an alternate solution could be made available.
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This thread starts to get unpleasant, shame on you.
cray made a proposal and you continue to kick his ass, what's the point?

Why do you think he makes this proposal if he wasn't interested in buying TC?

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Sheepdog wrote:I'm convinced that Christian wouldn't sell just one copy less if he'd remove the name completely. Any lizensed TC user I know, did not buy the lizense to prevent the 1,2, 3 click or because he was tired of downloading new keygenerators but to support Christian for developing his great program.
This is probably as true as the earth being spherical! That was my reason at least for buying TC. I’ve being using it cracked for over a year before putting my hand into my pocket.

By the way, I really enjoyed the BIDIRECTIONAL misspelling errors argument. ;) :D
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Sheepdog:
"v. let, let·ting, lets
v. tr.
To give permission or opportunity to; allow: I let them borrow the car. The inheritance let us finally buy a house. See Usage Note at leave1.
To cause to; make: Let the news be known. "

"sup·pose ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-pz)
v. sup·posed, sup·pos·ing, sup·pos·es
v. tr.
To assume to be true or real for the sake of argument or explanation: Suppose we win the lottery. "

I guess you better update your spell checker or something.
Possibly to get a version of TC you could better sell for your own account.
I have no idea what you're trying to say here but I'm willing to take a guess. I want this feature so i can buy a license.. and uhm.. start selling it while getting the buyers to "set the configuration option to disable the registration info on the titlebar" so I... uhm.. don't get caught? I think I'm just going to stick with your previous suggestion and obtain a license registered to your mom.
It's not stupid, nor naive; you're just a little, insignificant being in the numbers game. So he lost one sale with you, so what? He's already made up for that one with his system.
Thanks for that useful bit of information. However, I have no idea how that's relevant to me not supporting this "anti piracy concept".
Frankly, you're not the kind of person I want to be a fellow co-supporter with anyway, so I'm glad you have your problems.
Find a better excuse to not pay for something you use.
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On a serious note, this behavior doesn't bother me one bit, but I can see why people would want to change it (especially those who travel). It would be nice if an alternate solution could be made available.
Okay, to sum it up then, you are against me but you share my point of view.
He was mocking you. I don't think you're in a position here to discuss credability.
Ah yes, the mockery, I think I'm getting the hang of it now. You're also right about the credibility issue. I have no right of discrediting "Mr Illiterate" when he accused me of lying.
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My idea for the "name-in-program-title-problem":

As far as I know there are five user data stored in the wincmd.key

- Name
- Zip code (postal code)
- City
- Licens number and licens type

Make it possible for the user to select WHAT sould be in the program title.

For me it can read something like this:

Total Commander 6.03a - Lic # 84319
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petergus wrote:As far as I know there are five user data stored in the wincmd.key

- Name
- Zip code (postal code)
- City
- Licens number and licens type

Make it possible for the user to select WHAT sould be in the program title.

For me it can read something like this:
Total Commander 6.03a - Lic # 84319
That is brilliant although I don’t think anyone will ever use a zip code or a city for display. It may attract some cases though over multiple licenses.

One addition to your suggestion is a sixth option for turning the display of data OFF. Isn’t this thread about that anyway?! ;)

So, we could have, for example, the following ini option:
[face=courier]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RegInfoStatusOnTitleBar=1

0: Turns display of registration info on the title bar OFF.
1: Displays the name of the person or company where the license belongs to (default).
2: Displays the license number.
3: Displays the license type.
4: Displays zip code.
5: Displays city.

Just use a comma to separate displayed information if you need to display more than one simultaneously.

e.g. RegInfoStatusOnTitleBar=2,3

This will display your license type next to your license number as shown below:

Total Commander 6.03a - # 60101 Personal license
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[/face]
As for me, I would most likely be playing between 0 and 2. That I think will be the case for the majority of users that don’t like the default setting.
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norfie wrote:
Make the registration data in the titlebar optional
I'm sorry, is there any reason for this???
Yes, some user don't like the registry data in titlebar.

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It is very simple: As long as the name is displayed in the title bar, users are not going to give away their keys to friends and relatives, or put it online. That's why this is an effective form of copy protection.

If someone has a LEGITIMATE reason his name cannot be put in the title bar (for instance if he is a detective and has to work anonymously in public), maybe he should discuss it privately with Christian and see if a different name can be used.
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I'm sorry, is there any reason for this???
Read up on the previous discussions on this subject. There are many reasons like for instance people who travels, public presentations, screenshot posting or whatever, where you don't want to advertise with your name. Perhaps you have a ugly name and simply gets fed up looking at it all day long.
Why? What is the reason? IMHO your analogy with DRM for music or "play protection" for CDAs is wrong: there is no copy protection in TCmd. You can copy/use your registered version on many computers like you want.
For starters, I guess I can live with the fact of having my name in the titlebar. However, it's a matter of principles for me. I want to have the choice. For instance, how many of you would buy clothes where the seller insisted of "engraving" your name up front just so you wouldn't lend it to your friends?
It is very simple: As long as the name is displayed in the title bar, users are not going to give away their keys to friends and relatives, or put it online. That's why this is an effective form of copy protection.
Implementing a solution like pdavit suggested won't change the effectiness of the so called "copy protection". I don't think people will start giving their licenses out for free just because there is a option to disable it. The majority people that are actually paying for a license for TC are the one that wants to reward the author for his work. The fact that he can live of his work even though the application is not crippled is prof enough. Anyone who can't live with the nag screen at startup is more likely to go google for "totalcmd 6.xx crack" then to try to pray it of some friend who bought a license.
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Right. Thanks but no thanks. I value your input even though I'm beginning to think you might be retarded.
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cray wrote:I value your input even though I'm beginning to think you might be retarded.
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I recommend you strongly to stop to insult me. Otherwise I'll have to complain about you.

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