Guess he would rather say useless ( because they don't behave as he expected and wanted).djorge wrote:Unusable?
It works for me...
sheepdog
If there is a chance of Temporary Panel to be implemented?
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Valery_Kondakoff
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Christian,
I completely agree with icfu on this:
Not sure about what F6 should do. Anyone?
HTH
Roman
I completely agree with icfu on this:
As Lefteous said, creating folders inside the temp panel should be possible. (I remember you once said something about easy implementation using Ctrl-B code, however, that doesn't support subdirs AFAIK.)1. open new temporary tab with ctrl-g for example
2. tabs (panels) can be filled with virtual links to files by F5 or drag&drop
3. A simple Del or F8 MUSTN'T delete the original files, expected behaviour is remove virtual links from panel!
4. Shift-Del or Shift-F8 can delete original files, though, would be very intuitive.
Not sure about what F6 should do. Anyone?
HTH
Roman
Mal angenommen, du drückst Strg+F, wählst die FTP-Verbindung (mit gespeichertem Passwort), klickst aber nicht auf Verbinden, sondern fällst tot um.
I'll try to sum it up and make it a little bit more specific:Not sure about what F6 should do. Anyone?
F5 copies the original file
F5+SHIFT makes a duplicate of the virtual link (same as if you would have copied the same file/folder twice into the temp panel)
F6 copies the original file to prevent a "file not found" error when a file is represented by more than one virtual link and after all operations are done the original file is deleted.
F6+SHIFT moves the virtual link (same as if you would have moved the file/folder into a different location in the panel)
-F7 creates new folder
-Shift-F4 creates new file (maybe superfluous)
-DEL deletes virtual link only
-Shift-Del deletes virtual link plus original file/folder when available
Icfu
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I disagree with the idea that keyboard shortcut functions should be modified when working within a panel. When a user hits a key, he should expect the behavior to remain the same. You add an unnecessary layer of complexity when you make a key do one thing in one panel but a different thing in a different panel, even if those two things are closely related.
A temporary panel should be like a bucket that you can throw files into. It shouldn't behave like an actual directory and everything you do to each file should happen to the file, not to some virtual representation of the file. An additional method of being able to remove files from the temporary panel should be implemented but delete should be delete no matter where you are.
Along with being able to remove files from a panel (notice I said "remove" and not "delete"), one should be able to toggle full pathnames in the display so if you happen to have two files from two different directories that just happen to have the same name, you can quickly see which one comes from where.
Edited to change my mind on something: Being able to create a file or folder should still be allowed with the created file going into some default Windows temp directory until moved out of the panel and into an actual directory. This allows the user a little more freedom with what he can do with a temporary panel. Christian could even go so far as allowing people to make snapshots of temporary panels and go back to them later but that might be taking it a little too far.
A temporary panel should be like a bucket that you can throw files into. It shouldn't behave like an actual directory and everything you do to each file should happen to the file, not to some virtual representation of the file. An additional method of being able to remove files from the temporary panel should be implemented but delete should be delete no matter where you are.
Along with being able to remove files from a panel (notice I said "remove" and not "delete"), one should be able to toggle full pathnames in the display so if you happen to have two files from two different directories that just happen to have the same name, you can quickly see which one comes from where.
Edited to change my mind on something: Being able to create a file or folder should still be allowed with the created file going into some default Windows temp directory until moved out of the panel and into an actual directory. This allows the user a little more freedom with what he can do with a temporary panel. Christian could even go so far as allowing people to make snapshots of temporary panels and go back to them later but that might be taking it a little too far.
Your edit lets your post look like it has had no logical background before, sorry. I suggest you to try out file managers supporting temporary panels before talking about an "unnecessary layer of complexity".
To let DEL delete original files in temporary containers is very dangerous and absolutely not intuitive at all. You will see that when working with temporary panels, trust me. It's completely natural to press DEL for removing files.
Try xplorer2 and you will change your mind...
Icfu
To let DEL delete original files in temporary containers is very dangerous and absolutely not intuitive at all. You will see that when working with temporary panels, trust me. It's completely natural to press DEL for removing files.
Try xplorer2 and you will change your mind...
Icfu
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