[TC 10.50b5] Options - Edit/View

[jinsight]

Support++ for White's suggestion as to the order of elements in Configuration > Operation > Edit/View
The resulting order seems like an intuitive order:
* Configure internal viewer
* External Viewer settings
* Hotkeys settings

[AntonyD]

Do I understand correctly that Last one it was a question of moving the Hotkey section below and taking it out of the viewing and editing sections altogether? If true, then why is it logical at all? After all, these keys have a connection and meaning only for the F3 viewing section. And it is quite clear that they are inside. If it is incorrect, then I'm sorry, then I just misunderstood the meaning of what was described.
But in general, I am very impressed with the current final appearance of this tab of the settings dialog.

[petermad]

I see. But I looked at Configuration - Options - Misc, and it's not in all caps there either.

There is actually no SHIFT or ALT (all caps) anywhere in the English language strings in wcmd_eng.lng. It is only in the Internal strings - time to change that from all-uppercase.

[white]

Do I understand correctly that Last one it was a question of moving the Hotkey section below and taking it out of the viewing and editing sections altogether?

No that is not what I meant. I meant changing the order within "Viewer for F3" group box.

[ghisler(Author)]

I think that's debatable. But regardless whether it is technically correct, why do you prefer it? Do you think it looks nicer?

No, I want to give the user a hint that he configures a viewer for F3 and editor for F4, not for opening a file with Enter or so.

I see. But I looked at Configuration - Options - Misc, and it's not in all caps there either.

The translated ones usually aren't - the English ones are hard coded and should not be all uppercase either. I will change it.

In that case you could also reverse the order.

That would indeed be an option where the string could be repeated without making it look strange.
I will try it in the next beta.

[Usher]

2ghisler(Author)
Note the difference:
* Configuration -> Options -> Misc. -> Hotkeys: spaces are used, f.e. Control + Alt + F5
* Start - > Chage start menu -> Shortcut key: NO spaces, f.e. Control+Alt+F3

[petermad]

Note the difference:
* Configuration -> Options -> Misc. -> Hotkeys: spaces are used, f.e. Control + Alt + F5
* Start - > Chage start menu -> Shortcut key: NO spaces, f.e. Control+Alt+F3

IMH - spaces should never be used for hotkey-combinations.

[white]

You didn't change the group labels "Viewer for F3" and "Editor for F4" to simply "Viewer" and "Editor".
Why? "Viewer for F3" isn't a correct description and the additional "for F?" doesn't seem necessary.

I think that's debatable. But regardless whether it is technically correct, why do you prefer it? Do you think it looks nicer?

No, I want to give the user a hint that he configures a viewer for F3 and editor for F4, not for opening a file with Enter or so.

Not for opening a file with Enter or so.... Really?
I think you can safely leave it out. Besides shouldn't it then be the following?

Viewer for F3 and for command line parameter /S=L and for cm_List assigned to button, directory hotlist, start menu or alias

And you forgot to do it everywhere else.

Copy for F5
Delete for F8
FTP for Ctrl+F
Packer for Alt+F5

[white]

Note the difference:
* Configuration -> Options -> Misc. -> Hotkeys: spaces are used, f.e. Control + Alt + F5
* Start - > Chage start menu -> Shortcut key: NO spaces, f.e. Control+Alt+F3

IMH - spaces should never be used for hotkey-combinations.

As far as I can tell, spaces weren't used anywhere else. Now that he's reusing the strings, it's get used in Configuration - Edit/View as well.
I understand why he did it when defining hotkeys (because you click each modifier key separately). By the way, there seems to be a bug in Dark mode when listing the hotkeys. White space is missing before and after the hotkeys. Screenshot: here.

[ghisler(Author)]

No problem, I will remove the spaces. I hope that there aren't any languages which use two words for Alt or Shift...

[KozakMak]

https://i117.fastpic.org/big/2022/0518/11/8c96e511b0d92c1ad796e03285125411.png

https://i117.fastpic.org/big/2022/0518/76/6eedfe195effac20e2ed3809850e4e76.png

[AntonyD]

It is really strange but the width of this button |>>| is always changing - on one tab it's equal to 35px, on another - 38px.
Here at the current example - it's already 39px!!! Why it's not a fixed one???

I understand that there is a need to adjust the dimensions of some elements so that the text fits into them, so that they fit beautifully on the form. BUT there can't be different reasons for this button to have different widths! It should be a square button with one size in 35 px!

I clarify that the dimensions were taken at DPI = 120. Of course, with a different value, the width of the button will have to take a different value.

[petermad]

18.05.22 Fixed: Rearranged dialog box items again in Configuration - Options - Edit/View, removed spaces from hotkeys (32/64)

Confirmed that the spaces are removed from the hotkeys - and that the internal English no longer uses all uppercase for the hotkeys in TC 10.50b6

[white]

2ghisler(Author)

• I think the dialog becomes more clear if you don't stretch the buttons to full length like you have done now in beta 6.
• And I think it is more readable if you indent at the other places too, not only under "Hotkeys".
• There could be a bit more margin at the right within the groupbox border.
• Here is another mockup showing what I mean.

[ghisler(Author)]

Doesn't this look odd with the two buttons not ending at the same position? Maybe I should make the "configure internal viewer" button a bit wider so it ends at the same position as the "Associations" button?