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ShellDetails 1.26 (Content plug-in)
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Nice plugin, I use it sometimes when I need some column like Owner. But turning it on makes Total Commander noticebly slower, especially when sorting on the Owner column. Probably it would be faster if Total Commander had native support of columns that Explorer currently provides. Does somebody know if Chrisitian plans that? If yes, we could setup a poll to select mostly wanted columns, unless Chrisitian plans to add all of them of course 
This is a problem all content plug-ins share even if they calculate their values in the background. TC just waits until the plug-in has calculated all values and then sorts the file lists accordingly. If you have any idea how this could be done please discuss it by opening a new thread.noticebly slower, especially when sorting on the Owner column
The other question is how could TC help calculating these values faster. I have suggested how this could be done and I hope Ghisler will add the required new function to the content plug-in interface as soon as possible. This would also allow to display content plug-ins to display values in virtual folders like the Desktop or the recycle bin.
That's why I said that _probably_ native support of other columns would be faster because we bypass plugins infrastructure. So this slow-down happens with any kind of column, even the simplest ones like size?Lefteous wrote:This is a problem all content plug-ins share even if they calculate their values in the background. TC just waits until the plug-in has calculated all values and then sorts the file lists accordingly. If you have any idea how this could be done please discuss it by opening a new thread...noticebly slower, especially when sorting on the Owner column
Well "Size" can even take longer as directory size calculation can take many seconds just for a single field. It has nothing to do with plug-in infrastructure. The same would happen if TC would do such lenghty calculations. The reason is the collaboration between value calculation and sorting. The sorting needs all values to start sorting. There are many ways to change the current behavior. Maybe we can make a poll later. Here are some variants. I haven't had a perfect idea so far.That's why I said that _probably_ native support of other columns would be faster because we bypass plugins infrastructure. So this slow-down happens with any kind of column, even the simplest ones like size?
1) Current behavior: Sorting by a column blocks TC until the calculations is finished.
2) Just like current behavior but allow the user to stop the calculation. Sort by name in this case.
3) Don't wait for the calculation to finish. When it finished start sorting.
4) Don't calculate values when entering a directory sorted by a plug-in field. Sort by name in this case.
2Lefteous
Why do you think that slow-down isn't caused by plugins infrastructure? Maybe you're right, maybe not, we cannot tell for sure right now. What we can tell is that without content plugin, TC sorts quite quickly (in this case TC also needs to know all the values to start sorting). But with content plugin, sorting by file Owner is very slow. Unfortunately we cannot test how TC sorts by Owner column without content plugin. I see only two possible reasons of this slow-down:
1) Getting file owner is slow operation so sorting by it will always be slow - with or without native support.
2) Plugin infrastructure overhead causes the slow-down.
Why do you think that slow-down isn't caused by plugins infrastructure? Maybe you're right, maybe not, we cannot tell for sure right now. What we can tell is that without content plugin, TC sorts quite quickly (in this case TC also needs to know all the values to start sorting). But with content plugin, sorting by file Owner is very slow. Unfortunately we cannot test how TC sorts by Owner column without content plugin. I see only two possible reasons of this slow-down:
1) Getting file owner is slow operation so sorting by it will always be slow - with or without native support.
2) Plugin infrastructure overhead causes the slow-down.
Lefteous wrote:2ValentinoWell set TC to full view, navigate to a directory which contains subdirectories with 1234567890 files, sort by size, press shift+alt+enter and come back and tell me that it sorts "quite quickly"TC sorts quite quickly
Well, in this case sort by custom column will freeze completely I think .I meant approximately equal number of files.
2Valentino
BTW: Isn't it a bit shameless to request an internal solution for a plug-in in the plug-in support thread?
I think I have been very patient with you but now I've had enough!
TC freezes - as I told you already please use another thread if you want to complain about TC behavior. This is a support thread for my ShellDetails plug-in.in this case sort by custom column will freeze completely I think
BTW: Isn't it a bit shameless to request an internal solution for a plug-in in the plug-in support thread?
I think I have been very patient with you but now I've had enough!
Vista and the IColumnProvider
Hi,
I just discovered that I don't get any CVS fields with this plugin on Vista. Sorry if the question has been asked before, but am I right in assuming that this cannot work because MS has dropped the IColumnProvider interface in Vista which TortoiseCVS relies on and in turn ShellDetails relies on ?
Thx,
Hiker
I just discovered that I don't get any CVS fields with this plugin on Vista. Sorry if the question has been asked before, but am I right in assuming that this cannot work because MS has dropped the IColumnProvider interface in Vista which TortoiseCVS relies on and in turn ShellDetails relies on ?
Thx,
Hiker
Hi,
I wanted to search for files that have alternate data streams on my PC (and preferably edit or delete them as well). Seeing a reference to ads on page 10 of the thread, I downloaded and installed the plugin. When I try and create a custom columns setup (or do a search), I cannot find any column that says 'ads' or similar. I can see a lot of other columns the plugin adds, but not the one I want. Can someone confirm or deny that this plugin can show ads, and if so - what column name I am actually after?
Thanks,
CM
I wanted to search for files that have alternate data streams on my PC (and preferably edit or delete them as well). Seeing a reference to ads on page 10 of the thread, I downloaded and installed the plugin. When I try and create a custom columns setup (or do a search), I cannot find any column that says 'ads' or similar. I can see a lot of other columns the plugin adds, but not the one I want. Can someone confirm or deny that this plugin can show ads, and if so - what column name I am actually after?
Thanks,
CM
2romulous
Well the plugin displays everything Explorer displays. So if you have a shell extension that supports displaying the data you are looking for in column in Explorer ShellDetails will be able to display it as well otherwise not.
There are fields in ShellDetails which are available without shell extensions which read data from alternate data streams, but not in raw format. Sounds like this is what you are looking for.
Manipulating of any data isn't possible with this plugin.
Well the plugin displays everything Explorer displays. So if you have a shell extension that supports displaying the data you are looking for in column in Explorer ShellDetails will be able to display it as well otherwise not.
There are fields in ShellDetails which are available without shell extensions which read data from alternate data streams, but not in raw format. Sounds like this is what you are looking for.
Manipulating of any data isn't possible with this plugin.