Total Updater 0.8.6.9 - Total Commander & plugin updater

Post by *petermad » 2013-06-17, 22:34 UTC

Thanks for the updated translation, however somehow it seems its checksum value is equal to its previous version ("28-03-2013").
May it be the case that a wrong link has been pasted here? I've tried cleaning the cache and all, without any success...

No - it's because silly my packed the wrong file

- try and download again, I have updated the file.

Bluestar · Post by *Bluestar » 2013-06-18, 21:19 UTC

@petermad: It's all fine now, thanks!

krasusczak · Post by *krasusczak » 2013-06-21, 18:56 UTC

Hi, there is a little problem with "DBX" plugin

At totalcmd.net version info = 1.2, but from file 1.0.7.9, so updater wants update this over & over..

sha 388738e0a484cdd1feb1f21ed09dcb4913bdd717 *dbxplug.wcx
md5 a598e66fbd6f4d301c87518e7e62569f *dbxplug.wcx
dbxplug.wcx D274CC5D
File date: 2002-07-15 12:28:06

p.s. one question about support for totalcmd.pl, is it full support?, because there is some plugins i can send you (crc & data info) from this website :P

like:

WinampControl ver. in Total Updater: 0.6.0.0 (2005-08-20 21:57:24)
sha 6865e7c711cb349291ced2be584d7cdad501f9da *WinampControl.wfx
md5 99dbc7bd1bf2084274d604df2273e5ef *WinampControl.wfx
WinampControl.wfx A75F050F

http://en.totalcmd.pl/download/wfx/oth/WinampControl

-------

HTTP SmartBrowserPlugin ver. in Total Updater: 1.1.0.0 (2003-06-13 14:41:58) (! DLL !)
sha b5de619be67c8544099bb28e84fac85f8911ce4a *HTTPPlugin.dll
md5 b683225b9c5596a30e4a60d5c562671b *HTTPPlugin.dll
HTTPPlugin.dll 902B069C

http://en.totalcmd.pl/download/wfx/net/HTTP_SmartBrowserPlugin

Bluestar · Post by *Bluestar » 2013-06-23, 12:07 UTC

@krasusczak:
Hi, thanks for the DBX addition - now it is included in the checksum db of 0.8B2.
The other ones (HTTPPlugin & WinampControl) can already be found in that file since v0.7.5 (they were your contribution if I recall correctly), so these plugins local version should appear fine in your list. (in case ChecksumDBstate=2 in TotalUpdater.ini)

I plan to add full support for totalcmd.pl, though I'm not sure if I can introduce this feature in the next BETA... still need to find solution for multiple problems.
For example it would be nice to have a single url on which every addon would be listed (wcx/wfx/wlx/wdx & addons), but I can't manage to find such a thing... waiting for the webmaster's response. Maybe such a page/subcategory exists, I just haven't noticed?

krasusczak · Post by *krasusczak » 2013-06-29, 15:55 UTC

Hmm maybe I don't know how to use it ahahaha xD

I check it in 0.7.7 & 0.8 with (ChecksumDBstate=2)
HTTPPlugin & WinampControl: Latest = "-" & Update status = "Unknown."

I thought that i gonna have latest version information & update status OK.

p.s.
With this single url you mean something like this??
http://en.totalcmd.pl/download/wcx
http://en.totalcmd.pl/download/wfx
http://en.totalcmd.pl/download/wlx
http://en.totalcmd.pl/download/wdx
http://en.totalcmd.pl/download/add

Basically totalcmd.pl is a dead project last plugin update (2011-03-19), before this date also rarely.
I think that best way is update totalcmd.net plugins & support this sources, because in the future there will be always problem with version synchronization, at .pl will be different & at .net will be different :/

Regards,
Pit

Bluestar · Post by *Bluestar » 2013-07-01, 22:28 UTC

Oh, I think we kind of misunderstood each other a bit - at the moment its not possible to retrieve these mentioned plugins latest online version from the internet (as only totalcmd.net is supported & they aren't uploaded there), hence the "Unknown." status for both of them.

Honestly, it wouldn't be a hard job to include the latest version number of at least some exotic plugins inside the TU executable, but my original plan from the beginning was to not do it. It would have the same weak points:
- should always be around keep checking if the embedded latest available version numbers are still accurate or not
- what if the user decides not to update his/her Total Updater instance, thus keeping an old version database that leads to false informations about available updates

So basically yes, I wrote a module that manages to query the totalcmd.pl subpages you also collected above, and as of now it works just fine - the only problem is that it takes about ~6-7 seconds (with 5Mbps connection; currently its not async) to get and process all these data, and this is mostly for nothing - after comparing & merging the totalcmd.net and .pl ones, the result would be that most of the .net plugins in fact are newer than the other, so the prolonged query was actually unnecessary.

I am now thinking on the following possible solutions:

a) Continuing the current idea & make the request asynchronous (would still mean a somewhat longer update search)
b) As totalcmd.pl seems to be abandoned, just one-time query the current list of its plugins & embed the result into the TotalUpdater executable (+45 kB) by pairing their ID with the current ones in the database (to make possible the comparement of their version with the .net ones)
c) As totalcmd.pl seems to be abandoned, just one-time query the current list of its plugins & save a local file with the result by pairing their ID with the current ones in the database (to make possible the comparement of their version with the .net ones)
d) Put a tiny little script on a stable server (e.g. something like "http://totalupdater.com") that could grab all possible source of plugin versions, so it could be the only page that Total Updater queries (it could also be a script that runs once/twice a day and writes info to a file on the server, so TU could just grab it instantly everytime)
e) Update some version numbers on totalcmd.net (like "AviWcx" which points to "1.9", but still listed as "1.5"), and upload some abandoned plugins from totalcmd.pl to totalcmd.net - the only problem with the latter could be in case the license/readme file forbids to do so, not sure about the other cases (no license/readme/etc...)

I would be glad to hear your opinions.

Regards,
Bluestar

nsp · Post by *nsp » 2013-07-02, 11:51 UTC

Bluestar wrote: ......
I am now thinking on the following possible solutions:

a) Continuing the current idea & make the request asynchronous (would still mean a somewhat longer update search)

b) As totalcmd.pl seems to be abandoned, just one-time query the current list of its plugins & embed the result into the TotalUpdater executable (+45 kB) by pairing their ID with the current ones in the database (to make possible the comparement of their version with the .net ones)

c) As totalcmd.pl seems to be abandoned, just one-time query the current list of its plugins & save a local file with the result by pairing their ID with the current ones in the database (to make possible the comparement of their version with the .net ones)

d) Put a tiny little script on a stable server (e.g. something like "http://totalupdater.com") that could grab all possible source of plugin versions, so it could be the only page that Total Updater queries (it could also be a script that runs once/twice a day and writes info to a file on the server, so TU could just grab it instantly everytime)

e) Update some version numbers on totalcmd.net (like "AviWcx" which points to "1.9", but still listed as "1.5"), and upload some abandoned plugins from totalcmd.pl to totalcmd.net - the only problem with the latter could be in case the license/readme file forbids to do so, not sure about the other cases (no license/readme/etc...)
I would be glad to hear your opinions.

Regards,
Bluestar

First thanks to build this efficient tool for plug in update.
About totalcmd.pl I personally think that the best is to have a local mirroring (C) with possibility to update it manually and automatic download if local file is not present.

An intermediate website for totalupdater is a also very good solution if you ensure good bandwidth and availability.... Another advantage is to be able to enhance with alternate definition and even share "package of plugin" .....

krasusczak · Post by *krasusczak » 2013-07-03, 10:00 UTC

I think that the best way for now is only one real sources so take all plugins not existed from .pl to .net (if possible)
Update all new version from .pl to .net (if possible)
& fix all version information at .net

About DB yea if someone don't update updater & have old DB that mind be a problem.., maybe put DB not in exe but at totalupdater.com? & download local at first run & later on request?

brahman · Post by *brahman » 2013-07-03, 10:53 UTC

Hi,

the following plug-ins show as update available, even though they are current:

wlx_inied_1.2.rar
webdav.zip
wdx_wcx_tc_streams_plug.zip
wcx_DiskDirExtended_1.67.zip

krasusczak · Post by *krasusczak » 2013-07-03, 11:30 UTC

Hi Brahman

I have two of your plugins
wlx_inied_1.2.rar
&
wcx_DiskDirExtended_1.67.zip

& everything is updated with no Update available option

Regards
Pit

Peter · Post by *Peter » 2013-07-03, 11:46 UTC

Bluestar wrote:Total Updater v0.8 Beta 1... From now on TU also supports filtering the list of plugins (Ctrl + S); ......

Is it correct that "Ctrl+S" starts a "search-function", but there is not filtering like "show only unknown" / "show only files to update"?

Peter

Bluestar · Post by *Bluestar » 2013-07-05, 12:16 UTC

@nsp:
Thanks, glad you like it.

For now I decided to implement the c) variation regarding totalcmd.pl site, so a local mirroring will be ready in one of the next versions. I'll see if using a separate hosting would do a better job in the future...

@krasusczak:
Would gladly update these obsolete version strings on totalcmd.net if I'd have access, I don't know if Flint could grant me such rights to do so, if its possible at all. Otherwise the synchronisation of the old plugins on .pl is another task which is not so quick at all, and I don't even know if it could be done without legal issues (what if some authors don't want to see their plugins on another site that they used to upload it to).

@brahman:
I second krasusczak's post, cannot reproduce - I have WebDAV & DiskDirExtended plugins installed, and they show up correctly in the list after a search.

Code: Select all

DiskDirExtended.wcx	1.6.7.0	1.67	OK.
davplug.wfx	        2.3.0.0	2.3	 OK.

Does this issue occurs for you even with a clean TotalUpdater.ini file?

@Peter:
Coming soon in 0.8 Beta 2 (the language strings are already available for the function to work).

Regards,
Bluestar

brahman · Post by *brahman » 2013-07-07, 19:15 UTC

I deleted TotalUpdater.ini and now the above false positives do not show up any more. Thanks!

However, now I have different false positives:

wdx_PdbDiz.wdx 22.03.2005 24.03.2005 Update available! (The downloaded wdx file is dated 22.03.2005)
wdx_eml.wdx 1.0 3.08.2009 Update available! (The downloaded wdx file is v1.0)

Bluestar · Post by *Bluestar » 2013-07-09, 19:11 UTC

@brahman:
Thanks for reporting these plugins, they needs to be in the checksum database of TotalUpdater for them to be shown as "OK." in the list (added to Beta 2).

PS.: How can you detect wdx_eml.wdx being exactly version 1.0? I did check the package and it doesn't contains any version information, nor a readme section which would mention such a thing...

krasusczak · Post by *krasusczak » 2013-07-09, 19:17 UTC

Hi, probably this is this plugin: http://www.totalcmd.net/plugring/emld.html

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