[wish] Next Gen file manager - how it should look like?

MVV · Post by *MVV » 2011-10-14, 11:07 UTC

Offline wrote:Now I see TC looks in Windows 7 like NC in Win95.

TC looks in Win7 like WC in Win95.

And it is good that this tool is still usable and respects traditions.

andres992 · Post by *andres992 » 2011-10-14, 12:56 UTC

I am perfectly happy with the present looks of Total Commander. I always prefer functionality over GUI bloat or 'modern looks'.

'Modern' comes and goes, and people always think of it differently, depending on some (usually) forced mainstream developments (e.g. Windows 7 looks or imitating Apple Mac GUIs is considered to be 'normal' or 'trendy' now, although I do not like them). Total Commander has been a solid tool for me for about 10 years and I think it is somewhat independent of time. Therefore I do not see any need for GUI modernisation. Functionality improvements are a different thing though.

Offline · Post by *Offline » 2011-10-14, 13:51 UTC

andres992 wrote:I always prefer functionality over GUI bloat or 'modern looks'.

1. There is something you to know.
GUI is VERY related functionality. Even more - GUI is functionality.
Otherwise you would use command line - it is very independent tool!

2. I 100% sure people that don't like "modern" GUI of TC uses on their Windows XP themes or uses on their Windows Vista/7 Aero interface.
And they don't use gray simplified and depressive Win9x-2k interface.
I wonder - why?

I do not want to change GUI absolutely.
But I think science achieved good results in GUI development and optimization for 8 (!!!) years.

Sir_SiLvA · Post by *Sir_SiLvA » 2011-10-14, 15:54 UTC

2Offline
Thats not True - try speedcommander - I bet you like its design

I ie prefer the ability only TC offers to create my complete own menu file for tc:
http://home.arcor.de/gelber.elefant/menu_anim.gif
Try to do that with any other filemanager out there

Kevlar · Post by *Kevlar » 2011-10-14, 18:49 UTC

Sir_SiLvA wrote:Sorry but a filemanager on a Tablet?
Scary to work without a real keyboard...

*FACEPALM*

Sir_SiLvA wrote:I prefer TCs simple and functional look and the possibility to form it like I want

Yes, you can customize many things. But you can't keep TC in one window, each file operation makes you decide what type of copy/move window you will use, one of them will make you wait until operation is completed (or you can send it to background each time), you cannot check transfer speed history to figure out why it takes so many time to transfer 20 GB via LAN, you cannot keep search results when you move back to manager, you cannot start more than one operation in the queue, etc. Know what I mean? Why this inconvenience has been carefully moved from version to version? Why just not to make some little big changes in interface architecture?

P.S. Please read updated 1st post in this topic.

schmock · Post by *schmock » 2011-10-14, 19:07 UTC

http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=21640

the best would be to get a progress bar docked under TC / show like the status / functionkeys bar.
there could be name progress / % / rest infos (configurable) shown inside the bar.

or at least somewhere else inside, attached to TC so i dont need to search the floating window everywhere while copying/unpacking etc.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3946/41559118.jpg

a suggestion i made 2009..

Kevlar · Post by *Kevlar » 2011-10-14, 19:21 UTC

Hello, schm... hey! Isn't it a pejorative word?! Didn't see you for years here!

You have just repeated your first post in this topic. And link to your work is in 1st post. Cheers!

schmock · Post by *schmock » 2011-10-14, 19:25 UTC

dont think that ghisler is reading the 2 year old posts, so i took a chance

yeah some years and another try to get back to TC from SC, but seems again not much will change..

Sir_SiLvA · Post by *Sir_SiLvA » 2011-10-14, 19:27 UTC

Kevlar wrote:Yes, you can customize many things. But you can't keep TC in one window, each file operation makes you decide what type of copy/move window you will use, one of them will make you wait until operation is completed (or you can send it to background each time), you cannot check transfer speed history to figure out why it takes so many time to transfer 20 GB via LAN

Sorry i may be old school but when you have to move in your lan 20gb and more data more then once your save-data-structur is seriously wrong imho...

Kevlar · Post by *Kevlar » 2011-10-14, 19:41 UTC

schmock wrote:seems again not much will change..

At least we have tried. Nevertheless I can understand the reasons the TC remains the same.

Good thing we have the choice of where to watch the real research work (some guys from some known company). And it looks like they're doing well. But only time will tell...

Sir_SiLvA wrote:Sorry i may be old school

You don't have to sorry. I still have 5 inch diskette somewhere in my nightstand (read: nightmare).

m^2 · Post by *m^2 » 2011-10-15, 09:23 UTC

Offline wrote:I see on my favourite TC in Win7 and feel something wrong...

I too have the feeling....whenever I touch a computer with Win7 everything seems wrong.

andres992 · Post by *andres992 » 2011-10-15, 10:47 UTC

m^2 wrote:I too have the feeling....whenever I touch a computer with Win7 everything seems wrong.

LOL. Agree.

ThurahT · Post by *ThurahT » 2011-10-15, 13:35 UTC

I'll just say what everyone thinks, and that is that there will always be different opinions on what an interface should look and feel like. I for example think that most interfaces without keyboard and this look: http://lookpic.com/c1/i2/1236/sbtP5Xwr.png is bloated and has poor use of work space. But that is just me, and I know that many would not like that look and interface.

What I do agree on is that background transfer/operation window is sleek to an extent that is uninformative. I would really like to have a queue system as in FileZilla or the like with a scrollable (max heightened) panel beneath and within the TotalCommander window. Be that unpacking, copying, and moving files. That would be a great enhancement in my book.

/TT

Edit: Don't know if It's just me or so but the link is not 403 Forbidden. Try copy it and paste in new tab and it should work.

Offline · Post by *Offline » 2011-10-17, 07:49 UTC

Sir_SiLvA wrote:2Offline
Thats not True - try speedcommander - I bet you like its design
I ie prefer the ability only TC offers to create my complete own menu file for tc: ...
Try to do that with any other filemanager out there

So, you think submenu is great achievement for 8 years???

Something a la "Start->All programs->MyMenu"???...
*MEGALOL*

Sir_SiLvA wrote: Sorry i may be old school but when you have to move in your lan 20gb and more data more then once your save-data-structur is seriously wrong imho...

*LOL!* Just BDRip movie (10-60Gb) or solid 3D game (10-15Gb).
Everyday moving BDRips to my USB HDD or notebook via LAN.
"Take the future in your hand.."

m^2 wrote: I too have the feeling....whenever I touch a computer with Win7 everything seems wrong.

*LOL* Windows 3.11, 80486SXL, 66Mhz, 4Mb RAM, SoundBlaster, VGA VideoCard 256Kb...
"640kb ought to be enough for anybody"
Yes, yes, yes??...

Sir_SiLvA · Post by *Sir_SiLvA » 2011-10-17, 08:44 UTC

Offline wrote:
Sir_SiLvA wrote:2Offline
Thats not True - try speedcommander - I bet you like its design
I ie prefer the ability only TC offers to create my complete own menu file for tc: ...
Try to do that with any other filemanager out there
So, you think submenu is great achievement for 8 years???
Something a la "Start->All programs->MyMenu"???...
*MEGALOL*

Sorry but with Statement you have proven that you are just a forumtroll
and have ZERO clues about TC - so go along use SpeedCommander and make us happy by not comming back...

PS: Only Pirates have to take a BD-Movie/New Game from one storage medium to another storage medium.....