[wish] Next Gen file manager - how it should look like?

[Offline]

... you are just a forumtroll ...
...make us happy by not comming back...

Discussion of personality?
Please follow the accepted norms of debate.
Do not deviate to discuss the individual participants.

PS: Only Pirates have to take a BD-Movie/New Game from one storage medium to another storage medium.....

If you want - private movies from FullHD camera, legal VHD images, other legal data containers, big backup archives etc.
1.44" floppy world is dead.

[fenix_productions]

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PS: Only Pirates have to take a BD-Movie/New Game from one storage medium to another storage medium.....

What about Steam and its "Backup game files..." feature?

[petermad]

2Sir_SiLvA

Well Offline just doesn't seem to know what a customized menu file is. Anyway since it requires the use of a text editor to make one, I guess it is of no interest to Offline - text editors are toooo old-fashioned for a modern movie ripper

[Offline]

petermad
Be sure I know menu can be edited item-by-item in notepad.
I use Notepad++.

But nowadays (at the present time, in contrast with the past) we have:
1. 32" and more FullHD (1920x1080) screens.
2. Big volumes of data (5-60Gb) per file.
3. Tablet-PCs with touchscreens.
4. Notebooks with touch-pads.

Total Commander need some adaptation to modern devices.
16x16pix custom text menu is not "rulez" for modern devices owners.
Take a look at the truth - time does not stand still.

[Sir_SiLvA]

1) Strange I dont know anyone with a 32'' Monitor used on a PC

3) Tablet-PCs imho are for Surfing, Watching Movies or read EBooks not moving files as they lack what a filemanager depends on: Keyboards

4) TC works super fine on Notebooks

Perhaps its time you adopt to using your keyboard and stop being a "Maus-Schubser"

[Kevlar]

1) Strange I dont know anyone with a 32'' Monitor used on a PC

I used to sit in front of the monitor for about 10 years, but last 3 years I used to sit/lay on my sofa in front of 32" TV (I do not mean my working time ), using it as monitor. And don't want to switch the signal back to 22" monitor. And I cannot read those cool hacker-styled screenshots filled with a tiny fonts. I need a bloated look of interface.

What did I try to say?! If you are using PC in 'old style', it does not mean that soft should be written only for your needs. User Offline is right, he feels the wind of change))

3) Tablet-PCs imho are...

What is the point of this claim? Aren't you thinking everyone has to use hardware in your style? What for are those debates? Let's just sum up: the best software interface is that one which is customizable for all the styles of using the hardware. That is all the debates.

[HolgerK]

just kidding.
Are you sure that a couch potato really needs a file manager with bigger buttons?
Or is a voice command interface a better solution for him?

Regards
Holger

[ThurahT]

And I cannot read those cool hacker-styled screenshots filled with a tiny fonts. I need a bloated look of interface.

Are you referring to my screen? because that was in 1080p with pretty normal font size which of course can be any size you would need.

I understand what you and offline are saying..
As I mentioned in my previous post, opinions on how an interface should look is always individual. Then it is a good thing TC is so customizable. If you want to you can make it look almost like a bloated windows 7 explorer..

[Offline]

Sir_SiLvA
Yes, I believe personally you dont know anyone with a 32'' Monitor used on a PC, yes, now I know your imho.

But I speak about hi-tech world in general.
While you see in 15" CRT, people see 40" Samsung SmartTV with internet browser and other application. WTF? TV as PC?? - Yes, guy. Right now.

Big screens and touch-screen tablets are more accessible now then years ago. And more functional.

So I think TC must have more flexible interface: so if you old school geek - you switch to keyboard adopted interface, if you like simplicity - you switch to more ergonomic interface.

cool!: http://s017.radikal.ru/i419/1110/0b/e5794660fa18.png

[Sir_SiLvA]

But I speak about hi-tech world in general.
While you see in 15" CRT, people see 40" Samsung SmartTV with internet browser and other application. WTF? TV as PC?? - Yes, guy. Right now.

See and I think TC should be usable by alot of people not just by a few too rich people sitting in Dubai using their TVs as Monitor to move their pirated movies...

And you get me wrong is not that I dont know people with 32'' Monitor-TVs but in the World I live people use such things as Monitors for Game-Konsoles wich makes sense....

As said before - If you dont like the way TC looks their are many other TC clones out there - Speedcommander ie is one of them wich can even use TCs Plugins...

[Offline]

Thanks God I can make improvement request and continue using of TC with a hope.

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40" TV starts from 600$, 40" SmartTV from 900$
With my 130$ per month salary (Belarus) I can buy new 40" TV every 5 years. I doubt you can call me richman from Dubai...

PS And I doubt real richmans from Dubai uses Total Commander and pirated movies

[sheppaul]

http://xiles.net/downloads/#NexusFile

I really like total commander but TCMD can learn others too. Sometimes, it feels like a mule. :p

[Sir_SiLvA]

http://xiles.net/downloads/#NexusFile

I really like total commander but TCMD can learn others too. Sometimes, it feels like a mule. :p

Yeah like how not to support Pirates like that clone does? ^^
http://xiles.cdn1.cafe24.com/xiles.net/images/program/nexusfile11.png

[sheppaul]

Well, one can see what he wants.

The program is not another clone of NC.
It is a descendant of M-dir which was famous as much as NC.
Some of the interface is very convenient.
I agree it depends though.

You don't need to look at something from a biased viewpoint.

[Balderstrom]

I used to believe that TC was one of the most customizable programs around (5+ years ago), but now I have tried many file managers and commanders which are far more customizable as far as the interface is concerned (more font settings, more locations for menus, the ability to choose which tab to activate when you close a tab: last active, to the left, to the right) --- --- the unfortunate aspect, generally, of other (decent) file managers is not what you can/or cannot customize - it is the lack of core functionality that TC has implemented that others have not.

E.G. SubDirBranch view and extensive custom columns to name two that always seem to be missing. Albeit TC lacks in basic Custom Column features as well: the ability to natively use Explorer columns without 3rd party plugins (although at least there sometimes is a 3rd party option). Yet with 64 bit upcoming - TC's reliance on plugins for features that other file managers include as core functionality is painfully apparent.

Two other applications that I use, Opera and EmEditor lead the pack in user options and customization.
Opera provides location options for almost all interface elements:

• Status Bar, Top/or Bottom/Off.
• Main Menu, Top/Bottom/Right/Left/Off.
• Tab Bar: Top/Bottom/Right/Left/Off.
• Panel: Left/Right/Floating/Off.

Opera's Panel is an excellent example of one of the things that is being requested here: an interface element in TC that we can put various information.

2Offline
Thats not True - try speedcommander - I bet you like its design
I ie prefer the ability only TC offers to create my complete own menu file for tc:
http://home.arcor.de/gelber.elefant/menu_anim.gif
Try to do that with any other filemanager out there

It's great that TC allows you to do that --- it's not so great that you pretty much HAVE to do that: since the Main Menu hasn't changed (much) in 5+ years --- if you want access to most of TC's commands you will have to invest a significant amount of time rebuilding it's interface: Menus, ButtonBars, adding settings to the wincmd.ini. These are things that other "modern" file managers have already fixed/done right out of the box.

I've been here for 8+ years, and almost all of the interface fixes/suggestions are refused. Which is a bit depressing really.

I highly doubt there is anyone here that wouldn't find it useful to be able to have multiple Button Bars at the same time. To be able to place those Button Bars at the top, bottom, middle (between panels vertically), or even floating.

To streamline the ways commands can be called, so that they are (or can be) the same in every instance: Start Menu, Main Menu, ButtonBar, Directory Hotlist, Command-Line.... each of those have their quirks and limitations on what you can and can't do --- as opposed to having the same rules and features - which would simplify things immeasurably.

To streamline dialogs, so that you don't have to click thru 5-8 things to make one change: be it the FTP dialogs to upload a file, or changing a Search/File filter.


Sir_Silva's attitude in this thread is definitely odd to say the least (if not troll-like). I'm pretty sure he has a lawn he wants us to get off of.