[OT] Confusion provoked by TC naming ambiguities

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[OT] Confusion provoked by TC naming ambiguities

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... an option to lock their positions
Try to use a right mouse-click on the TAB. You can lock the TAB there.

i dont have the choice of resorting
Sure you have: just drag the TAB to move and drop it on another TAB. It will be moved behind this TAB.
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[OT] Confusion provoked by TC naming inconsistencies

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I really like those wording disasters in TC. :twisted:
So many problems could be solved with so less effort... :cry:
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Lefteous wrote:I really like those wording disasters in TC.
You are right, but in this case TC is hardly to blame. Everwhere you read about "tabs" as in "tabbed browsing" etc. And the name "tabstops" has been used for ages, even before PCs where existing.

TC could of course use other names for tabs and/or tabstops, but I think C. Ghisler feared to confuse the users.
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but I think C. Ghisler feared to confuse the users.
Obviously users are confused now. When folder tabs were introduced Ghisler should have investigated if there are any ambiguous terms.
I don't think users would have a problem if tabstop headers would be called column headers.

There are many other wording problems in TC especially inconsistencies. For example you could ask why custom columns are not called custom tabstops... :roll:
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:D Yes indeed! Good suggestion, btw.
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"Tabstop" name has to do with the technical detail of how the list is implemented.
Users should never know that, so there's no question that it should be column headers.
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Sheepdog wrote:This thread is splitted from.......etc
Sheep, old buddy, you can't say "splitted" - the simple past tense of 'split' is also 'split'! Ya gotta say 'has been split from ...' instead. It's one of those Old English irregular verbs (borrowed from Dutch 'splitten'?) that causes no end of trouble.

BTW, the word 'sh!t' is in the same category. It's 'sh!t, sh!t, sh!t' - present, past and future, and also when your team loses by a penalty! :D
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SQUIRE wrote:
Sheepdog wrote:This thread is splitted from.......etc
Sheep, old buddy, you can't say "splitted"
As you have seen in the first post: I actually can. ;)

But I admit that it is incorrect English. So thank you for the lesson, I appreciate your effort to improve my English.
BTW, the word 'sh!t' is in the same category. It's 'sh!t, sh!t, sh!t' - present, past and future, and also when your team loses by a penalty! :D
Interesting .... ;) :lol:

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Actually Ghisler is perfectly correct in his use of the word 'tab' and it's not ambiguous at all.

In English it's defined as 'A short strip of material attached to or projecting from something in order to facilitate opening or identifying or handling it'. I know of no other synonym for the word.

A tab 'stop' is only a point for for the carriage of a typewriter to halt at and is so used in a word processor to mean a mark for the cursor to jump to.

A 'column header' is simply what it says: the head of a column e.g. Filename, Ext, etc.

You guys will have to dream up some new name if you don't like 'folder tabs'! :mrgreen:
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Post by *Lefteous »

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You guys will have to dream up some new name if you don't like 'folder tabs'!
Noone requested to change this :?
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Sort must be highlighted---

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2Lefteous

:) Hello Christian !

• In French, it's = Header to sort (En-tête pour tri) originally, and I use = “Tabs of sorting (Onglets de tri) in the Tutorial too.
- SQUIRE is quite right about the definition of "Tab", it's exactly the same than in French; it's a general term which can be applied as well to the notch on the blade of a Swiss knife that helps to pull¦open this blade… as to this kind of button that proliferates in programmes.
And there is no more synonym in French than in English… :|

- I wonder to know if you have more specific¦precise words in German ?
Humm… Too lasy to watch my huge Harrap's paper-dic., the font is quite tiny ! :lol:

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Re: Sort must be highlighted---

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Clo wrote:I wonder to know if you have more specific¦precise words in German ?
So Claude, what do you think? - Of course! :mrgreen:
The name is "Karteikartenreiter" with the short form "Reiter".

IMHO the "Tabs" should be called "Flags" in English.
A flag is that small labeled grip part of a file card.

"Column Header" would be absolutely worst, because
the Tabs don't belong to any (visual) column of TC.
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"Column Header" would be absolutely worst, because
the Tabs don't belong to any (visual) column of TC.
What is wrong with you guys? Again who requested to call the folder tabs column headers? :OMG:
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Lefteous wrote:I don't think users would have a problem if tabstop headers would be called column headers.
Lefteous, that's from your 2nd post. :)
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2Lesmo16
So what? :evil:
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