Real TAB management !

nsp · Post by *nsp » 2007-06-18, 07:39 UTC

Two feature that TC do not have and should be implemented !
// Mr Ghisler did not give a clear answer on these ! //

A) locking invalid tab from the "error box"
Some of you probably know how it is annoying to get a msg bow like "Do you want to reboot ?" and the only button is Yes !
This is excactly what happend with invalid tab, once you click it is lost for ever (Cancel DO NOT CANCEL ! ) !
Pleazzzzzzzzzzzz Mr. Ghisler can you add a button to lock a tab if the folder is invalid from the error dialog box istead of either closing the tab or even changing to a folder i do not want and this even without any warning !

B) Per tab history
Each tab get it's own history list and both drop down history list and Back and forward command allow navigation onto it.

Post by *ghisler(Author) » 2007-06-18, 20:44 UTC

A) Total Commander has to go somewhere, it cannot remain in the vacuum!

B) I have tried this, but it was extremely annoying - the path to which I wanted to go was always either on some other tab, or on a tab which I had just closed - it was really unusable.

nsp · Post by *nsp » 2007-06-19, 06:06 UTC

A) Yes TC has to go somewhere if somewhere exists !
If i forgot to enable a share or launch a script my folder is not there ! Cancel do not cancel (I mean the cancel should also cancel the focus on this tab and bring stuff in the previous state) Even if i urgently fix, i cannot retry and my tab is lost. The notion of locked or invalid tab is important because it say that is is unusable for now !

B) It is true that a global history is a need, but both could be better and specially with the back and forward buttons (we are used with tabbed browser to this behavior) ! a good design could be having the history separated in Two parts one local and one global. Having the possibility to save this history with the tab definition in the "tab file" would be the cherry on the Cake !

Basically i could have point (A) if pushing on Back button could bring me back to the folder i really wanted.

wanderer · Post by *wanderer » 2007-06-19, 06:20 UTC

nsp wrote:Even if i urgently fix, i cannot retry and my tab is lost.

<SNIP>

Basically i could have point (A) if pushing on Back button could bring me back to the folder i really wanted.

I would support any enhancement to that direction. I can't tell you how many times (usually due to network failures) i have entered a network path 10 folders deep, the connection is lost and i have to go after 10-15 seconds (when the network connection is restored) and manually cd 10 folders deep. It's really annoying. Oh, CTRL+D or saving tabs does help a little but it's not panacea. Most of the time i'm not near the folder i have stored in the directory hotlist and even if i am, all the cds i have to do in order to find the folder i want, disrupt my work. Not to mention what happens if both left and right-panel folders are lost...

Couldn't TC just keep the location of the folder but just show an empty file list (disable it - no clicks allowed, only "refresh")?

CopyCats · Post by *CopyCats » 2007-06-20, 13:01 UTC

ghisler(Author) wrote:A) Total Commander has to go somewhere, it cannot remain in the vacuum!

Wouldn't it be interesting to see what happens if you set it to "Null", Christian?

The infinite depth of Null must be very similar to a blackhole. Maybe it will turn the computer screen into a spacetime gate, sucking the user up and warping him to the other end of the universe.

I do think an "Are you sure? Y/n"-dialog would be appropriate for this new feature.

CopyCats · Post by *CopyCats » 2007-06-20, 13:07 UTC

On a more serious note:

wanderer wrote:I can't tell you how many times (usually due to network failures) i have entered a network path 10 folders deep, the connection is lost and i have to go after 10-15 seconds (when the network connection is restored) and manually cd 10 folders deep.

Doesn't the disappeared folder appear in the History list (Alt-DownArrow)? If so, what Christian might consider is to add a disappearing path to the History when he replaces it. That way you can easily return once the path has been restored.

wanderer · Post by *wanderer » 2007-06-20, 13:22 UTC

CopyCats wrote:Doesn't the disappeared folder appear in the History list (Alt-DownArrow)?

Hmmm, probably yes, i almost never use the History list though so i keep forgetting it exists.

This could be a nice workaround. I must keep it in mind. Thanks for the tip.

P.S. That doesn't mean i do not support any more what i said in my previous post though.

nsp · Post by *nsp » 2007-06-21, 11:27 UTC

CopyCats wrote:On a more serious note:

Doesn't the disappeared folder appear in the History list (Alt-DownArrow)? If so, what Christian might consider is to add a disappearing path to the History when he replaces it. That way you can easily return once the path has been restored.

Nope Sir ! (have you done a try ??)

When you switch to a tab the history is filled only if the change is successful !

For me, in more than 80% of the case nothing related to the tab i want to switch to is in the history ):((