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Suggestion about the visibility of tooltips
Posted: 2007-06-24, 14:03 UTC
by wanderer
There are two options i find useful and at the same moment irritating:
- Show filename in the list as tooltip if truncated
- Win32-style tips with file comments
Is it possible to add a third one? -> "show tooltips only if CTRL is pressed" (or perhaps any other key, ALT, etc).
Re: Suggestion about the visibility of tooltips
Posted: 2007-06-24, 14:14 UTC
by m^2
wanderer wrote:There are two options i find useful and at the same moment irritating:
- Show filename in the list as tooltip if truncated
- Win32-style tips with file comments
Is it possible to add a third one? -> "show tooltips only if CTRL is pressed" (or perhaps any other key, ALT, etc).
Personally I wouldn't use this option, tooltips work fine for me as they are now, but I've heard an argument that these tooltips popping up when not needed are irritating from several people before, so I guess there's something in it...
Re: Suggestion about the visibility of tooltips
Posted: 2007-06-24, 14:20 UTC
by wanderer
m^2 wrote:Personally I wouldn't use this option, tooltips work fine for me as they are now, but I've heard an argument that these tooltips popping up when not needed are irritating from several people before, so I guess there's something in it...
Yes, that's why i asked for it. Currently the only thing that can be done in order not to irritate you is to disable them but you lose all the useful info which is a shame...
Posted: 2007-06-24, 14:36 UTC
by Hacker
wanderer,
Not sure if it helps, but there's also cm_ShowHint.
HTH
Roman
Posted: 2007-06-24, 14:50 UTC
by wanderer
Hacker wrote:wanderer,
Not sure if it helps, but there's also cm_ShowHint.
HTH
Roman
Nope. If tooltips are disabled, cm_ShowHint just places the mouse cursor over the selected item but does not show the tooltip.
Amusing effect…
Posted: 2007-06-24, 16:37 UTC
by Clo
2
wanderer

Hello !
• Maybe that you propose could be optional as another choice in the INI ?
- Currently, I noticed an amusing effect : When an info-text is displayed,
let's say on a long truncated name ending with “…“ in the list, pressing
Ctrl makes that the info-text disappears,
while the cursor remains on that file…

- That works too for info-texts coming from custom fields (i.e. for a *.SQX archive).

KR
Claude
Clo
Re: Amusing effect…
Posted: 2007-06-24, 16:45 UTC
by wanderer
Clo wrote:Maybe that you propose could be optional as another choice in the INI ?
Hi Clo. As i said...
wanderer wrote:Is it possible to add a third one? -> "show tooltips only if CTRL is pressed"
... so of course i meant option.

I'm sure not everyone would be interested to have such a thing permanently...
Posted: 2007-06-24, 16:51 UTC
by Lefteous
2
wanderer
Nope. If tooltips are disabled, cm_ShowHint just places the mouse cursor over the selected item but does not show the tooltip.
This works fine here.
Posted: 2007-06-24, 16:58 UTC
by wanderer
Lefteous wrote:2
wanderer
Nope. If tooltips are disabled, cm_ShowHint just places the mouse cursor over the selected item but does not show the tooltip.
This works fine here.
I had both these turned off:
-
(1) Show filename in the list as tooltip if truncated
-
(2) Win32-style tips with file comments
It turns out that only if (2) is disabled, cm_ShowHint shows nothing even if (1) is enabled. In the UI though, if (1) is disabled, (2) is disabled too (it may be checked but disabled). I wonder if this could actually qualify as a bug...
Odd---
Posted: 2007-06-24, 17:01 UTC
by Clo
2
wanderer
I'm sure not everyone would be interested to have such a thing permanently...

Indeed, personally, that doesn't bore me a lot…
- But it's odd that currently we have exactly the reverse effect than that you propose pressing
Ctrl…

KR
Claude
Clo
Re: Odd---
Posted: 2007-06-24, 17:03 UTC
by wanderer
Clo wrote:But it's odd that currently we have exactly the reverse effect than that you propose pressing Ctrl…
This happens with all tooltips in all programs when you press any key...
Posted: 2007-06-24, 18:45 UTC
by Sombra
2
wanderer (and interested)
It isn't a solution. But this suggestion could improve this issue.
http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=127251
What do you think about this suggestion?
Posted: 2007-06-24, 18:57 UTC
by wanderer
It's an idea. The problem is tooltips have a much larger height/width than status bar so they can hold much more information, not to mention the ability to hold certain advanced types of info (like images) in the future. In short i prefer them, it's just annoying to see them all the time.
Posted: 2007-06-24, 19:26 UTC
by Sombra
The problem is tooltips have a much larger height/width than status bar so they can hold much more information...
Yes,

It would be a problem. I tried it at least

Posted: 2007-06-24, 20:11 UTC
by Lefteous
2
wanderer
I had both these turned off:
- (1) Show filename in the list as tooltip if truncated
- (2) Win32-style tips with file comments
It turns out that only if (2) is disabled, cm_ShowHint shows nothing even if (1) is enabled. In the UI though, if (1) is disabled, (2) is disabled too (it may be checked but disabled). I wonder if this could actually qualify as a bug...
I confirm - time for a bug report.