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Problem: alphabetical sort by (full) filename

Posted: 2007-11-08, 13:43 UTC
by gt13
Hello,

When sorting files by alphabetical order, TC seems to consider that the files have an extension, and that extension is dropped in the sorting process.
This is very annoying when one uses files without extension, as here for instance.

Another simpler example, where it would be better to list aa.bb.01 before aa.cc

Regards,
gerard

Posted: 2007-11-08, 13:52 UTC
by Stitscher
2gt13
Did you look in your settings?
Configuration---Options--Display---Sort method
Try "Natural sorting: alphabetical and number"

Stitscher

Posted: 2007-11-08, 16:35 UTC
by gt13
I just have tried the 4 sorting options. It is the same.

IE6…

Posted: 2007-11-08, 16:57 UTC
by Clo
2gt13

:) Hello !

• To get SortUpper=3 (best alpha-num sorting) working, you need Internet Explorer- 6 or newer installed…
- If so, that works even under Win 98 SE (while M$ tells wrongly it doesn't).

:mrgreen: KR
Claude
Clo

Posted: 2007-11-08, 17:25 UTC
by gt13
@ Clo :
I have IE7 installed. I run XP SP2.

Does it work on your computer? Please try this

1- Name - 2 Extension

Posted: 2007-11-08, 17:38 UTC
by Clo
2gt13

:) Hello !

• It works perfectly here, I'm the guy who discovered it works under Win 98 SE ;)
- But that you show is normal : You have a last part of the file-names “saw” as extensions,
and these “extensions” are sorted then as they would.

:mrgreen: KR
Claude
Clo

Posted: 2007-11-08, 19:02 UTC
by gt13
@ Clo
yes, I know. It is what I say from the very beginning of this post !!!

Don't hide

Posted: 2007-11-08, 19:59 UTC
by Clo
2gt13

:) I guess that it should be sorted else by displaying the real extentions.
That's not a good thing to hide them in Windows, I never do.
- Anyway, this is a feature coming from Windows, and I assume that TC can't change anything at this…

:mrgreen: KR
Claude
Clo

Posted: 2007-11-08, 20:22 UTC
by gt13
@ Clo
I never hide extensions on my computers. The problem is not there.

Posted: 2007-11-08, 21:11 UTC
by Vansumsen
:arrow: gt13

Go to Configuration >>> Options >>> Tabstops >>> Click on "Show file extensions aligned with tab" and you will see that SortUpper=3 works correctly and sort only the names without keeping the extensions.

So you get :
aa_________.bb
aa_________.cc
aa.bb______.01
aa.bb______.02

If there is an extension you get :
aa.bb______.ext
aa.bb.01___.ext
aa.bb.02___.ext
aa.cc______.ext

Friendly

Paul

As a work arround : replace de "." by another character in your names ("_" or"," by sample) you will get :
aa,bb
aa,bb,01
aa,bb,02
aa,cc

Posted: 2007-11-08, 22:09 UTC
by HolgerK
2gt13

- Create a new "custom column" :
<Shift +F1> -> "Configure custom columns" -> [New]

- Add these columns:

Code: Select all

Caption  |Width | Align  |  Field contents
-------------------------------------------
Size       |  26   |  ->     |  [=tc.size]
-------------------------------------------
Date      |  51   |  <-     |  [=tc.writedate]
-------------------------------------------
Attr       |  16   |  <-     |  [=tc.attributestr]
-------------------------------------------
Fullname|  34  |  <-      |  [=tc.fullname]
- and sort by column "Fullname"

HTH,
Holger

Posted: 2007-11-09, 02:09 UTC
by Sam_Zen
No extension, or hiding them : Yegghh..

Posted: 2007-11-09, 02:38 UTC
by StatusQuo
Another workaround, if the above don't help: use a second sorting option:
first by name, second by extension
(after sorting by name hold down the Ctrl key while clicking on the "Extension" column).

Posted: 2007-11-09, 07:18 UTC
by gt13
@ Vansumsen
-------------------
In the upper screen captures, my files are shown with the extension (if exists) attached to the file name.
I have thousands of files like that, and it is out of purpose to rename them!


@ HolgerK
--------------
Thanks for this trick. It works (see here) but as it, it is not convenient because
- it completely changes the TC interface,
- it does not work in ZIP archives (and in fact most of my files are in archives).

But it proves that TC can do the work.
That is why I would appreciate in one of the TC menus a command like "Sort by fullname". :)
Is it conceivable ?


@ StatusQuo
-----------------
Thanks for this trick. But it does not work in my case, since I need that TC considers the "fullname".


Thanks to you all
Gerard

Posted: 2009-09-14, 16:19 UTC
by gt13
Just "upping" this old suggestion that I still consider usefull (for my usage of TC).