Should F2 become the default for renaming?
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Re: Should F2 become the default for renaming?
i think if you wish to made a revolution you have to bring it to the limit
May i suggest to use
F2 for rename
F3 for find
F4 for copy
F5 for refresh
F8 for view
F9 for edit
alt and canc keys are more useful
(peter do not worry! please)
thanks
pierpaolo
(registered user husband)
May i suggest to use
F2 for rename
F3 for find
F4 for copy
F5 for refresh
F8 for view
F9 for edit
alt and canc keys are more useful
(peter do not worry! please)
thanks
pierpaolo
(registered user husband)
Re: Should F2 become the default for renaming?
No WAY! these are surely WinExplorer Standards and the TotalCommanderpierpaolo wrote:i think if you wish to made a revolution you have to bring it to the limit
May i suggest to use
F2 for rename
F3 for find
F4 for copy
F5 for refresh
F8 for view
F9 for edit
is far older than this useless Explorer thing...
btw You know that you can remap rename to F2?
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- Clas Hortien
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Yeah great, and make [F1] completely diferent to every other program. And the advanced user can change the setting with the Key remapping of TC.Clas Hortien wrote:And as you changing code anyway you can change F1 to Refresh
(who needs the help that often to waste the best key for it ??)
Sorry Clas Hortien, but this is complete nonsense. If you have had read the thread carefully you would have seen that the question about [F2] is that this is used different to standard Windows hotkey.
And the goal is not to make TC-Hotkeys unique but as expected for the (new) user.
If you like to change the [F1] key to refresh you can do this already with:
Configuration->Options->Misc: Redefine Hotkeys
The desired command is cm_rereadsource.
But to make this by default is in my opinion complete nonsense.
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Re: Should F2 become the default for renaming?
Sir_SiLvA wrote:
No WAY! these are surely WinExplorer Standards and the TotalCommander
is far older than this useless Explorer thing...
btw You know that you can remap rename to F2?
Yes thanks
Before windows commander i've been used norton commander (which windows commander get f5-f6 keys from) so my personal need is to remap explorer not tc; but if you want tc to remain far older than this useless Explorer thing... for a long time, i think it will need continuos developping, like all software programs, and it depends on its diffusion
; dos is dead, maybe tc should be adjusted to explorer.
for example if so or btw keys buttons in the bottom of tc was changeable according to remappig i would buy some license for my company.
Now i can't, difference in explore and tc get in confusion ordinary users.
my best regards
thanks
Pierpaolo
Pierpaolo
Re: Should F2 become the default for renaming?
It is possible to deactivate the display of the funtion keys:pierpaolo wrote:for example if so or btw keys buttons in the bottom of tc was changeable according to remappig i would buy some license for my company.
Now i can't, difference in explore and tc get in confusion ordinary users.
my best regards
Configuration-> Options-> Layout: Show function key buttons
And then you may adopt your menu like this:
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MENUITEM "| F3 Anzeigen |", cm_List
MENUITEM "| F4 Bearbeiten |", cm_Edit
MENUITEM "| F5 Kopieren |", cm_Copy
MENUITEM "| F6 Bewegen |", cm_RenMov
MENUITEM "| F7 Neur Ordner |", cm_MkDir
MENUITEM "| F8 Löschen ", cm_Delete
MENUITEM "| ALT+F4 Exit |", cm_Exit
POPUP "&Dateien"
MENUITEM "&Dateiattribute ändern...", cm_SetAttrib
MENUITEM "&Packen...\tALT+F5", cm_PackFiles
MENUITEM "&Entpacken...\tALT+F9", cm_UnpackFiles
MENUITEM "&Teste Archiv(e)...\tALT+UMSCH+F9", cm_TestArchive
MENUITEM "&Vergleich nach Inhalt...", cm_CompareFilesByContent
MENUITEM "Ver&knüpfen...", cm_Associate
MENUITEM "Eigen&schaften...\tALT+ENTER", cm_VersionInfo
MENUITEM "Speicher&bedarf ermitteln...", cm_GetFileSpace
MENUITEM "&Mehrfach-Umbenenn-Tool...\tSTRG+M", cm_MultiRenameFiles
MENUITEM "Komme&ntar bearbeiten...\tSTRG+Z", cm_EditComment
POPUP "Dr&ucken"
MENUITEM "Datei&liste...", cm_PrintDir
MENUITEM "Dateiliste mit &Unterverzeichnissen...", cm_printdirsub
MENUITEM "&Datei-Inhalt\tSTRG+F9", cm_PrintFile
END_POPUP
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "Datei &aufspalten...", cm_Split
MENUITEM "Dateien &zusammenfügen...", cm_Combine
MENUITEM "Datei &codieren (MIME,UUE,XXE)...", cm_Encode
MENUITEM "Datei dec&odieren (MIME,UUE,XXE,BinHex)...", cm_Decode
MENUITEM "Erzeu&ge CRC-Quersummen (im SFV-Format)...", cm_CRCcreate
MENUITEM "Verifiziere CRC-&Quersummen (aus SFV-Dateien)", cm_CRCcheck
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
END_POPUP
POPUP "&Markieren"
MENUITEM "&Gruppe markieren...\tNUM +", cm_SpreadSelection
MENUITEM "Gruppenauswahl &rückgängig...\tNUM -", cm_ShrinkSelection
MENUITEM "Alle Dateien markieren\tSTRG NUM +", cm_SelectAll
MENUITEM "Keine Datei markieren\tSTRG NUM -", cm_ClearAll
MENUITEM "Aus&wahl umkehren\tNUM *", cm_ExchangeSelection
MENUITEM "Auswahl mer&ken", cm_SaveSelection
MENUITEM "Auswahl wieder&herstellen\tNUM /", cm_RestoreSelection
MENUITEM "Auswahl in Datei &speichern", cm_SaveSelectionToFile
MENUITEM "Auswahl aus Datei &laden", cm_LoadSelectionFromFile
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "&Verzeichnisse vergleichen\tUmsch+F2", cm_CompareDirs
MENUITEM "Neue &markieren, gleiche verstecken", cm_DirMatch
END_POPUP
POPUP "&Befehle"
MENUITEM "&CD-Verzeichnisbaum...\tALT+F10", cm_CDtree
MENUITEM "&Suchen...\tALT+F7", cm_SearchFor
MENUITEM "Daten&träger benennen...", cm_VolumeId
MENUITEM "System-&Information...", cm_SysInfo
MENUITEM "Verzeichnisse s&ynchronisieren...", cm_FileSync
MENUITEM "&Verzeichnisliste\tSTRG+D", cm_DirectoryHotlist
MENUITEM "&Zurück\tALT+Pfeil links", cm_GotoPreviousDir
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "&DOS starten", cm_ExecuteDOS
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "Zweigansicht (mit &Unterverzeichnissen)\tSTRG+B", cm_DirBranch
MENUITEM "&Öffne Desktop-Verzeichnis", cm_OpenDesktop
MENUITEM "Hintergrund-Transfermanager...", cm_OpenTransferManager
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "&Fenster tauschen\tSTRG+U", cm_Exchange
MENUITEM "Fenster &angleichen", cm_MatchSrc
END_POPUP
POPUP "&Netz"
MENUITEM "Netzlauf&werke verbinden...", cm_NetConnect
MENUITEM "Netzlaufwerke t&rennen...", cm_NetDisconnect
MENUITEM "Frei&geben als...", cm_NetShareDir
MENUITEM "Freigabe &beenden...", cm_NetUnshareDir
MENUITEM "Zeige administrative Freigaben", cm_AdministerServer
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "FT&P Verbinden...\tSTRG+F", cm_FtpConnect
MENUITEM "FTP &Neue Verbindung...\tSTRG+N", cm_FtpNew
MENUITEM "FTP Verbindung tr&ennen\tSTRG+UMSCH+F", cm_FtpDisconnect
MENUITEM "FTP Verstec&kte Dateien anzeigen", cm_FtpHiddenFiles
MENUITEM "FTP Dateien aus &Liste herunterladen", cm_ftpdownloadlist
MENUITEM "P&ORT-Verbindung zu anderem PC...", cm_DirectCableConnect
END_POPUP
POPUP "&Ansicht"
MENUITEM "&Kurz\tSTRG+F1", cm_SrcShort
MENUITEM "&Lang\tSTRG+F2", cm_SrcLong
MENUITEM "K&ommentare\tSTRG+Umsch+F2", cm_SrcComments
MENUITEM "&Verzeichnisbaum\tSTRG+F8", cm_SrcTree
MENUITEM "S&chnellansicht\tSTRG+Q", cm_SrcQuickview
MENUITEM "Ve&rtikale Anordnung", cm_VerticalPanels
MENUITEM "Neuer Ordner-&Tab\tSTRG+T", cm_OpenNewTab
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "&Alles\tSTRG+F10", cm_SrcAllFiles
MENUITEM "&Programme\tSTRG+F11", cm_SrcExecs
MENUITEM "*.*", cm_SrcUserSpec
MENUITEM "&Benutzerdefiniert...\tSTRG+F12", cm_SrcUserDef
MENUITEM "Nur &markierte Dateien", cm_ShowOnlySelected
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "Nach &Name\tSTRG+F3", cm_SrcByName
MENUITEM "Nach &Erweiterung\tSTRG+F4", cm_SrcByExt
MENUITEM "Nach &Datum/Zeit\tSTRG+F5", cm_SrcByDateTime
MENUITEM "Nach &Grösse\tSTRG+F6", cm_SrcBySize
MENUITEM "&Unsortiert\tSTRG+F7", cm_SrcUnsorted
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "Ab&steigend sortiert", cm_SrcNegOrder
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "&Quelle neu einlesen\tSTRG+R", cm_RereadSource
END_POPUP
POPUP "&Konfigurieren"
MENUITEM "&Einstellungen...", cm_Config
MENUITEM "B&uttonbar ändern...", cm_ButtonConfig
MENUITEM "Einstellungs&dateien direkt ändern...", cm_configChangeIniFiles
MENUITEM "P&osition speichern", cm_ConfigSavePos
MENUITEM "Einstellungen &speichern", cm_configSaveSettings
END_POPUP
STARTMENU
HELP_BREAK
POPUP "&Hilfe"
MENUITEM "&Index\tF1", cm_HelpIndex
MENUITEM "&Tastatur", cm_Keyboard
MENUITEM "&Registrier-Info", cm_Register
MENUITEM "&Homepage von Totalcmd besuchen", cm_VisitHomepage
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "&Über Total Commander...", cm_About
END_POPUP
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Re: Should F2 become the default for renaming?
Maybe for YOU - I know some people that still have to work with dos...pierpaolo wrote: ; dos is dead, maybe tc should be adjusted to explorer.
And why should TC adjust to something so bad like the explorer?
because most people dont get the rtfm-Rule ?
Only for 5 mins - after that they wouldn't wanna use anything else anymore...pierpaolo wrote: Now i can't, difference in explore and tc get in confusion ordinary users.
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- nilsandrey
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I'm in the group voting for the F2 to rename as default, but considering the amount of people saying NO...
There're other problematic features like that?
Could them be grouped in a last optional step? named like "Old features", "Old users defaults"...well I don't really like any of these names.
Another idea is to include a basic configuration Wizard (optional) at the end of the installation/upgrade process where to ask for the top used features. Including here F2 with rename as default
There're other problematic features like that?
Could them be grouped in a last optional step? named like "Old features", "Old users defaults"...well I don't really like any of these names.
Another idea is to include a basic configuration Wizard (optional) at the end of the installation/upgrade process where to ask for the top used features. Including here F2 with rename as default