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Don't like Options button location in Copy/Move function
Posted: 2009-04-18, 22:25 UTC
by alm
I'm not satisfied with the new location of the Options button on the Copy/Move dialog window. In my opinion it is better to have the OK - F2 - Tree and Cancel buttons in the bottom and the Options button above it on the right site (with show/hide functionality). It's ok though to have the Advanced options shown below the buttons like it is now when "options" is clicked and shown. Just don't want anything below the buttons when "Options" is not shown.
Hope you agree with me.

Posted: 2009-04-19, 00:15 UTC
by fenix_productions
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alm
I am not sure I understand.
Which one you've got on mind A or B?
http://fenixproductions.republika.pl/tc/copyprop1.png
A is ridiculous IMHO because you don't know what is activated and mouse users would always click on Options for copy confirmation.
Solution B is not far from current implementation. Little bit more strange perhaps.
Personally I'd rather abandon Options and show advanced ones right away.
Posted: 2009-04-19, 03:40 UTC
by alm
I like B better, but with the result picture below picture A I would "Options >>" to be like "Options <<" so you can switch it off again.
Your example A is indeed not the right choice. If the whole button would disappear then I would suggest to have the buttons (OK, F2, Tree, Cancel) below the Advanced options.
Posted: 2009-04-19, 03:54 UTC
by fenix_productions
2alm
I am against both ideas and I'd like to have Options visible whole of the time.
Posted: 2009-04-19, 04:05 UTC
by alm
fenix_productions wrote:2alm
I am against both ideas and I'd like to have Options visible whole of the time.
You mean you don't want a "Options" button? But then would it not be nice to have the OK-F2-Tree-Cancel buttons in the bottom, as it is more logical?
Posted: 2009-04-19, 04:25 UTC
by fenix_productions
alm wrote:You mean you don't want a "Options" button?
Nope. I'd like to have it where it is now but without disappearing after click so I could hide advanced options right away without need for Esc + start copy again. The only alternate solution which might be handy for me is to have no button BUT "advanced area" always visible.I don't simply like cat&mouse game
alm wrote:But then would it not be nice to have the OK-F2-Tree-Cancel buttons in the bottom, as it is more logical?
Many users == many opinions
I prefer to have it closer to are which is changed. Take a look on applications with checkboxes which switch between enable/disable states of other controls. Dependent controls are always close to "switcher". That way users' eyes are focused on one place. Since this button imitates checkbox functionality it should follow its placement too.
Posted: 2009-04-19, 04:38 UTC
by alm
2fenix_productions
IMO it is more logical to have the Options button above the OK button, NOT below it. AFAIK all programs that I know have the main choice buttons in the bottom, not somewhere in between.
In current situation I'm pressing "Options >>" where I wanted to press "OK".
Posted: 2009-04-19, 09:20 UTC
by Herr Mann
I think the Options should always be displayed.
Why the Options-Button?
Besides it looks strange, with the hanging Button down there.
Then one can also move the "Copy NTFS-Permissions" Checkbox down.
"Copy NTFS-Permissions" is finally a "Option", too.
Posted: 2009-04-19, 20:01 UTC
by Herr Mann
Do you forget this?
Please adapt it to the new Copy/Move GUI Design...
Image:
http://s6b.directupload.net/images/090419/rlfpvmic.jpg
Posted: 2009-04-19, 20:12 UTC
by Postkutscher
fenix_productions wrote:2alm
I am against both ideas and I'd like to have Options visible whole of the time.
I could agree with you, but what happens on low screen resolution.
Posted: 2009-04-19, 20:13 UTC
by Postkutscher
alm wrote:I like B better, but with the result picture below picture A I would "Options >>" to be like "Options <<" so you can switch it off again.

Exactly. This is my preference too.
Posted: 2009-04-19, 20:21 UTC
by fenix_productions
Postkutscher wrote:I could agree with you, but what happens on low screen resolution.
After expanding it has: 422x303 here.
I know it might change a little bit (depending on DPI or system theme) but who does use 480x320 resolution these days?
Judging from
this I can say: very few people

Posted: 2009-04-19, 20:29 UTC
by Postkutscher
When booting old Windows in safe mode you have 640x480 .
Well, I will made a test how it looks on Win98 in safe mode. If ok, I will apologize to you.
Posted: 2009-04-19, 20:53 UTC
by Lefteous
It should be moved all over the dialog. Otherwise it could be overlooked:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1ect0EWE-I
Posted: 2009-04-20, 17:23 UTC
by Postkutscher
Postkutscher wrote:When booting old Windows in safe mode you have 640x480 .
Well, I will made a test how it looks on Win98 in safe mode. If ok, I will apologize to you.
Yes, not very beautiful, but usable.
So I agree with
fenix_productions I'd like to have Options visible whole of the time.