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Install Directory
Posted: 2009-09-24, 07:29 UTC
by kiril
Hello,
During the instalation the default directory i suggested c:\totcmd.
Why the instalation not use the enviroment variable %PROGRAMFILES% and suggest to install in %PROGRAMFILES%\totcmd.
In english version of Windows by defalut this will be c:\Program Files\TotCMD.
But in my spanish windows it will be c:\Archivos de Programa\TotCMD
Thank you.
Posted: 2009-09-24, 08:30 UTC
by TLis
Maybe this is because on some OS not everybody can write to the Program Files folder? (Access rights!)
Posted: 2009-09-24, 15:58 UTC
by MVV
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[Destination]
Dir=%ProgramFiles%\TOTALCMD
This works fine for me, installer suggests folder "C:\Program Files\TOTALCMD".
TLis wrote:Maybe this is because on some OS not everybody can write to the Program Files folder? (Access rights!)
TC runs installer with admin rights, so answer is
no. Anyway, path retrieving doesn't require write access to a folder.
Posted: 2009-09-30, 07:58 UTC
by kiril
Yes, the suggest that I did is that the default installation directory would be %PROGRAM FILES%\TOTALCMD.
Thank you.
Posted: 2009-09-30, 15:46 UTC
by karlchen
Hello, kiril. Hello, guys.
The discussion about the default programme folder for Total Commander is in fact several years old.
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[ADVICE] default paths for installation and settings
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[REQ] "C:\Program Files\Total Commander" default installation folder
And there are more threads discussing the same suggestion / request.
Just search for strings like
%programfiles%\totalcmd,
installation folder,
program files\totalcmd,
default install directory or similar strings.
For a very short period of time, the default installation folder had been set to
%program files%\totalcmd. Then Christian decided to go back to the previous default value which is
C:\totalcmd.
karlchen wrote:Check the history.txt, please.
The default installation folder had been changed to %programfiles%\Totalcmd and had to be changed back to C:\Totalcmd.
26.07.06 Release Total Commander 6.55 final
26.07.06 Fixed: Installer didn't correctly detect Windows Vista
26.07.06 Fixed: Revert to c:\totalcmd as default install directory (can of course be changed manually)
I assume that the reason which Chistian gave for clinging to C:\totalcmd as the default installation folder way back in 2005 may still apply
ghisler(Author) wrote:Ich installiere bewusst NICHT nach c:\Programme, weil dort "normale" User schlicht keine Schreibrechte haben! Eine Installation dort gibt vor allem dann Probleme, wenn man die Software als Admin installiert, und später als normaler User benutzt. Man darf dann z.B. .bar-Dateien nicht ändern...
ghisler(Author) wrote:I do NOT install to "C:\Program files" on purpose, because "normal" users will not have any write privileges there. Installing there will cause problems primarily in cases where the software has been installed by an admin, and will be used by normal users later on. They will not be allowed to modify the .BAR-files e.g. ...
(Translation done by me)
I am not quite sure that re-starting the discussion about the default installation folder offered by the Total Commander installer during the
first fresh installation only will be worth the time and effort.
Kind regards,
Karl
Posted: 2009-10-14, 08:19 UTC
by kiril
Thank you, karlchen,
If for the Total Commander crue is not important the install directory, then ok lets end this.
But I think that there is some general issues that any program in windows MUST meet.
1. If user don't have rights to install any program, He/She don't have to install any program, Total Commander included. If regardless of that he want's user Total Commander, there is a way to use it without install it, realy?
2. The programs directory of Windows is common and it is "C:\Program Files", in spanish "C:\Archivos de Programa" and its pointed with %Program Files% variable. If any program create it's own folder in to root there will be to much anarchy. Think, in UNIX or Linix, is there any program intalled in root? In any system must be an order.
3.If some user need to change .bar files or any files I understand that this is personalize the Total Commander and this personalization must be noted in the user folder (all rights). In Windows this folder is "C:\Documents and Settings\UserName". Before, the .ini file "windcmd.ini" was in "c:\Windows" directory. Look, the las version 7.x puts the "windcmd.ini" in user directory, ins't it?
4. Background compatibilty: Today Windows 3.11? Realy? Why not Windows 98? But ok, no matter, if this is so important for Total Commander, then the Total Commaner instalation may resolve this with some elegancy, like check previosly which version of windows is and then put the "wincmd.ini" and any configuration or modification files in the correct directory.
5. For me - no more comments about this teme. It's only suggestion. It's so putty for me that this great program has thats no important design stupid errors.
Thank Ghisler for create it, it's very usefull!