[8.0b4 x64] ALT + X closes TC

[xam]

on 64bit editions (b3 and b4) i have the problem that ALT+X closes (Exit) TC.
for me it's quite annoying as i use fast-search (schnellsuche) with ALT key only.

32bit version does not have this behavior.

OS: win 7 x64

[Flint]

Cannot confirm, here Alt+X opens quick search. Tested in XP x64, Win7 x64.

[Sir_SiLvA]

The OP has just no clue as this is not a Bug but default WC/TC Behaviour!

ALT+X with default Shortcuts in TC has allways closed TC
(its an undocumented ShortCut in TC)

If you dont like the behaviour change the Shortcut

Even in WC 1.10e you was able to Close with ALT+X...

And before Flint starts to yell that this is NOT true:

2Sam_Zen

Maybe a rookie-question, but is Alt+X the same as clicking on the 'X' box at the right upper corner ?

Not under all circumstances:

1: Alt-X won't close TC if: Configuration -> Quick search -> Alt+Letters is enabled. That is why TC doesn't have any Alt+Letter hotkeys by default (exept for this undocumented Alt+X hotkey IIRC)
2: Alt-X won't close TC if there is an X-hotkey in the main menu - as there for example is in the Catalan, Galician, Valencia versions of the menu or in my own Extended Menus (see sig.).

Source: http://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=154652#154652

But perhaps with TC8 its time to add this Shortcut to Keyboard.Txt-File....

@Mods: please move to english section TIA

[Flint]

Sir_SiLvA
I won't start yelling, because I know about the Alt+X hotkey, but you did not notice that topic started uses exactly quick search Alt+Letters, so Alt+X should not close TC in his configuration.

[xam]

@flint: that's it..

in general: i use TC since over 10 years (almost the same wincmd.ini).
and i never had problems with ALT+X.

even more, if i use 8.0b4 x86 (same config), it works as i excpect it.
so, may it is not a bug - but the behavior has changed..

[Flint]

so, may it is not a bug - but the behavior has changed..

If it were changed then a) it would be changed equally in x32 and x64, and b) I would see that change too, because I always use Alt+letters for quick search.

Please, try starting TC with empty wincmd.ini, set Quick Search to Alt+letters and see whether Alt+X still closes your TC or not.

[xam]

@flint; thanks for the hint (using empty wincmd.ini)

i could it now trace back to the following entry:
LanguageIni=wcmd_deu.lng (german)

using this language config on:
- 8.0b4 x64 then ALT+X = EXIT TC
- 8.0b4 x86 then ALT+X = quicksearch

[EDIT]
finally: this entry causes the problem:
1078="Alt+F4 E&xit"
removing & from Exit is a possible work-a-round.

[Flint]

xam
Ah, I see. The problem is that default German language file has & sign in the line 1078="Alt+F4 E&xit", that's why this "X" works as hotkey in your case. Probably, Christian forgot to remove it, because in other language files (including default English distributed separately) the ampersand is not present.

You can edit the file yourself and change this line into 1078="Alt+F4 Exit", then Alt+X will not close TC.

PS: While I was typing, you already found this yourself.

[petermad]

Well, as xam points out - there is a difference in behaviour between the 32bit and the 64bit version.

The 32 bit version behaves like TC has always done - If there is an &x in string 1087 for the chosen language then Alt+x closes TC - UNLESS Alt+Letters is chosen for Quick search.

The 64 bit version closes TC If there is an &x in string 1087 for the chosen language - ALSO if Alt+Letters is chosen for Quick search.

I think it would be nice with consistency here, and I think the 32-bit way should be applied to the 64bit version for backward compatibility.

[karlchen]

I think it would be nice with consistency here, and I think the 32-bit way should be applied to the 64bit version for backward compatibility.

Less in order to backward compatible, but in order to allow using [alt]+[letter] for quick search in Total Commander 64-bit in general.

Karl

[petermad]

in order to allow using [alt]+[letter] for quick search in Total Commander 64-bit in general.

Well, it is only when there are hotkeys on the function buttons that there is a problem - otherwise using [alt]+[letter] for quick search works OK in 64bit TC - or are you experiencing otherwise?

[karlchen]

No, no additional problems.

Yet, having the ampersand in [Alt+F4 E&xit] seems to be the default for the German and English languages, because using either language, I can perfectly exit T.C. 8.0ß4 by pressing alt+x in both the 32-bit version and in the 64-bit version.
(No additional or extended language files installed, nor ever bothered to tweak the exisiting language files.)

Karl

[Flint]

Yet, having the ampersand in [Alt+F4 E&xit] seems to be the default for the German and English languages, because using either language, I can perfectly exit T.C. 8.0ß4 by pressing alt+x in both the 32-bit version and in the 64-bit version.

It's somewhere inside TC, because in Ctrl+Alt+letter QS mode I can close TC with Alt+X even with Russian interface which does not have the "X" letter at all in this label, not to mention any ampersands.

[TestingTC]

i get that behavior even on version 7.55a and it's not a problem

[ghisler(Author)]

I can confirm the problem with 64-bit only. It seems that Lazarus still handles the key on the button although TC sets it to 0 when handling it for quick search.