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Lister (audio) and maximized loudness

Posted: 2018-12-16, 01:06 UTC
by none
If you want to play some audio files in TC 9.21a using shift+f3 with modifíed loudness the loudness jumps back to maximum at the begin of the next file. It would be better to keep the modified value.

Re: Lister (audio) and maximized loudness

Posted: 2018-12-17, 17:25 UTC
by petermad
You must be using some kind of plugin - TC does not support Loudness setting by itself

Re: Lister (audio) and maximized loudness

Posted: 2018-12-17, 17:29 UTC
by Horst.Epp
I use the mmedia plugin for this and it always remembers the Loudness setting.

Re: Lister (audio) and maximized loudness

Posted: 2018-12-17, 17:46 UTC
by petermad
2none and 2Horst.Epp By Loudness do you mean Volume? Volume and Loudness are not the same - Loudness is a function that enhances certain frequenzies.

Re: Lister (audio) and maximized loudness

Posted: 2018-12-17, 18:00 UTC
by Horst.Epp
petermad wrote: 2018-12-17, 17:46 UTC 2none and 2Horst.Epp By Loudness do you mean Volume? Volume and Loudness is not the same - Loudness is a function that enhances certain frequenzies.
I mean Volume and I think none means the same as he says "jumps back to maximum"

Re: Lister (audio) and maximized loudness

Posted: 2018-12-17, 18:15 UTC
by petermad
I can confirm that the Volume for TC's native player jumps back when shifting audio file.

I don't think there is much to do about it - TC uses a Windows feature (Media Control Interface (MCI)) for the internal mediaplayer AFAIK

Re: Lister (audio) and maximized loudness

Posted: 2018-12-17, 19:02 UTC
by ts4242
Not only volume but also speed.

Re: Lister (audio) and maximized loudness

Posted: 2018-12-18, 00:01 UTC
by Usher
It's a little bit stranger, you can see it when testing speed only. If you only look at the volume/speed settings it's all OK. But once you click any slider it starts to follow the cursor with NO drag-and-drop needed. The menu opens from the top so after the first click the slider always goes to the max like crazy.

Re: Lister (audio) and maximized loudness

Posted: 2018-12-20, 11:01 UTC
by ghisler(Author)
Please use a plugin like mmedia - I don't think that I can make it remember the volume programmatically.

Re: Lister (audio) and maximized loudness

Posted: 2018-12-21, 04:55 UTC
by Usher
2ghisler(Author)
And what about strange mouse behaviour (sliders go max when hovered, without using drag-and-drop)?

Re: Lister (audio) and maximized loudness

Posted: 2018-12-24, 11:19 UTC
by ghisler(Author)
Sorry, no idea.

Re: Lister (audio) and maximized loudness

Posted: 2018-12-26, 06:55 UTC
by none
The volume and speed can be set by this

mciSendString("setaudio <audiofile>" volume to " + <volume>, 0, 0, 0)";
mciSendString("set <audiofile> speed " + <speed>, 0, 0, 0);

The value for the <volume> could be stored in wincmd.ini. The value for the <speed> is only needed for the current session.

For the sliders, it should be enough to check the left mouse button in the MouseMove event.

But the problem of the window size from my contribution "Lister (Audio) with minimum height" is still unanswered. It is unclear why the behavior between the x32 and x64 versions is so different.

Since I've programmed my own MCI player in the meantime, I'm no longer dependent on the solution.

Re: Lister (audio) and maximized loudness

Posted: 2018-12-27, 09:52 UTC
by ghisler(Author)
Do you know whether the values can be read too? Then TC could read them at the end of a track, or when lister is closed, and set them again for the next track.
But the problem of the window size from my contribution "Lister (Audio) with minimum height" is still unanswered. It is unclear why the behavior between the x32 and x64 versions is so different.
I haven't seen this problem so far, so I cannot answer that. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

Re: Lister (audio) and maximized loudness

Posted: 2018-12-27, 16:45 UTC
by none
No, there is no way to retrieve the values from the interface. You can only get them from the current position of the slider.

The size of the Lister form:

- please start TC 9.21a x64
- under Configuration> Options> Edit / View select the first option (Internal viewer with file under Cursor)
- select some files
- press Shift + F3

and the Lister starts with minimized height. This happens on Windows 7 and 10. The x32 version is fine.

Re: Lister (audio) and maximized loudness

Posted: 2018-12-27, 17:59 UTC
by petermad
select some files
select some AUDIO files...