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Add 'Everything' hotkey in the "Find Files" menu

Posted: 2021-04-16, 15:08 UTC
by WindR
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Every option has its own hotkey except the 'Everything"

Re: Add 'Everything' hotkey in the "Find Files" menu

Posted: 2021-04-16, 15:49 UTC
by Horst.Epp
Why should I need an hotkey to switch off Everything ?
A normal Everything user will never switch off Everything to just get a long running TC search.

Re: Add 'Everything' hotkey in the "Find Files" menu

Posted: 2021-04-16, 17:29 UTC
by WindR
Imagine a case when Everything is not started automatically.
Not every user needs Everything started with TC, especially when TC runs from a network/flash drive.

Re: Add 'Everything' hotkey in the "Find Files" menu

Posted: 2021-04-16, 23:00 UTC
by Usher
2Horst.Epp
It's not about your needs, it's about UX. All options should be available from the keyboard.

Re: Add 'Everything' hotkey in the "Find Files" menu

Posted: 2021-07-08, 09:40 UTC
by ymmv
I'd like a hotkey to turn on/off Everything as well, because there are TC searches that otherwise don't work.

I've got a search pattern ( *2.*;*4.*;*6.*;*8.*;*0.* ) that selects files that end with an even number. I use this stored search regularly, but it doesn't find any files when Everything is turned on. So I've got to turn Everything on and off all the time. It would make life easier for me if Everything had a working hotkey.

Re: Add 'Everything' hotkey in the "Find Files" menu

Posted: 2021-07-08, 10:57 UTC
by tuska
ymmv wrote: 2021-07-08, 09:40 UTC I'd like a hotkey to turn on/off Everything as well, because there are TC searches that otherwise don't work.

I've got a search pattern ( *2.*;*4.*;*6.*;*8.*;*0.* ) that selects files that end with an even number. I use this stored search regularly, but it doesn't find any files when Everything is turned on. So I've got to turn Everything on and off all the time. It would make life easier for me if Everything had a working hotkey.
Hi,
claims regarding search queries using Total Commander <-> 'Everything' are incorrect - examples:
  1. Field "Search for:" *2.*;*4.*;*6.*;*8.*;*0.* ... [✓] 'Everything'
    5 files are found although 'Everything' is open in the background (and the "Everything Service" is running!).
    The search is done only with parameters of Total Commander and not with parameters of 'Everything'!
  2. Field "Search for:" ed:<*2.*|*4.*|*6.*|*8.*|*0.*> ... [✓] 'Everything'
    5 files are found, 'Everything' is present as a process in the Task Manager and the "Everything Service" is running!
    The search is done with Total Commander using 'Everything' parameters!
Tested with these files:

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test0.ini
test2.txt
test4.doc
test6.xls
test8.pdf
Please have a look at this topic (there are also pictures here...):
Search queries in TC using 'Everything'

If you need further support, then it would be useful to specify,
which versions of Total Commander and Everything you are using.
[See my signature as an example].

If someone needs 'Everything' only occasionally, he can also set up the following hotkeys in 'Everything'(!):
Menu "Tools" -> Options... -> Keyboard:
  1. Toggle window Hotkey: F11 (example!)
  2. File | Exit: F10 (Global) (example!)

Windows 10 Pro (x64) Version 21H1 (OS build 19043.1081)
TC 10.00 x64/x86 | 'Everything' 1.5.0.1268a (x64)
Search queries: TC <=> 'Everything' | 'Everything' 1.4.1.1011 (x64)

Re: Add 'Everything' hotkey in the "Find Files" menu

Posted: 2021-07-08, 13:14 UTC
by tuska
WindR wrote: 2021-04-16, 15:08 UTC Every option has its own hotkey except the 'Everything"
My suggestion for this is the following:
In the "Find files" window, under the option 'Everything' --> underline the letter "g"   --> if possible, you should see the underline then.

For all other letters, i.e. "Everythin" there are already underscores in this window - at least as far as I could see.
To do this, I went to menu "Configuration" - "Options..." - "Language" to select different languages.

Re: Add 'Everything' hotkey in the "Find Files" menu

Posted: 2021-07-08, 14:38 UTC
by ymmv
I just tested my claim that the search query *2.*;*4.*;*6.*;*8.*;*0.* didn't get results using Everything. Well, it works — and it doesn't. I initially thought it depended on the depth of the directory folder ...

With Everything turned on

Y:\Scans\New\PSD - no files found
Y:\Scans\New - no files found
Y:\Scans\ - 890 files and 1196 directories found
Y:\ - 899 files and 1225 directories found

The problem of course is that there ARE files with even numbers in Y:\Scans\New\PSD.

With Everything turned off

Y:\Scans\New\PSD - 64 files found and 0 directories found
Y:\Scans\New - 160 files and 0 directories found
Y:\Scans\ - 15338 files and 1197 directories found
Y:\ - 15732 files and 1226 directories found

It's obvious now that Everything clearly doesn't see everything on the Y:\ drive and returns incomplete results in TC.

It seems to depend on the query. Here are the results of a few test queries in Y:\Scans\New\PSD, this directory contains 128 files, sequentially named from page-003.tif to page-130.tif

*12*
TC: 12 files TC+Everything: 12 files (CORRECT)

*12*.*
TC: 12 files TC+Everything: 12 files (CORRECT)

*12.tif
TC: 2 files TC+Everything: 2 files found (CORRECT)

*12.t*
TC: 2 files TC+Everything: 2 files found (CORRECT)

*12.*
TC: 2 files TC+Everything: no files found (INCORRECT)

I'm running the 32-bit version of TC 10 and the 64 bit version of Everything 1.4.1.1009. Both are the latest versions.

Re: Add 'Everything' hotkey in the "Find Files" menu

Posted: 2021-07-08, 16:22 UTC
by petermad
2ymmv
I can confirm that a search pattern like *12.* does NOT work when 'Everything' is enabled. (both 64bit and 32bit TC 10.00)

I went back and tried old TC versions and the pattern does work in TC 9.00 and 9.0a, but it stops working in TC 9.10 beta3. I cannot see anything in the history for TC 9.10 beta3 that there should have been made any changes for the Search function in that version though.

I have filed a bug report: https://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=74994

Re: Add 'Everything' hotkey in the "Find Files" menu

Posted: 2021-07-08, 16:36 UTC
by tuska
2ymmv
Try this setting in 'Everything':
Menu "Tools" - "Options..." - "Search":

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[ ] Match whole filename when using wildcards
Pay attention to the tooltip for this option.
Does the problem still exist?

Re: Add 'Everything' hotkey in the "Find Files" menu

Posted: 2021-07-08, 16:54 UTC
by Horst.Epp
tuska wrote: 2021-07-08, 16:36 UTC 2ymmv
Try this setting in 'Everything':
Menu "Tools" - "Options..." - "Search":

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[ ] Match whole filename when using wildcards
Pay attention to the tooltip for this option.
Does the problem still exist?
To make it clear, the option should be disabled.

Re: Add 'Everything' hotkey in the "Find Files" menu

Posted: 2021-07-08, 16:59 UTC
by ymmv
Only when I turn off "Match whole filename when using wildcards" in Everything, can I find the numbered files in TC using Everything.

Re: Add 'Everything' hotkey in the "Find Files" menu

Posted: 2021-07-08, 17:01 UTC
by tuska
ymmv wrote: 2021-07-08, 16:59 UTC Only when I turn off "Match whole filename when using wildcards" in Everything, can I find the numbered files in TC using Everything.
Yes, this is the correct setting in 'Everything' for such queries.

Re: Add 'Everything' hotkey in the "Find Files" menu

Posted: 2021-07-08, 17:24 UTC
by Horst.Epp
ymmv wrote: 2021-07-08, 16:59 UTC Only when I turn off "Match whole filename when using wildcards" in Everything, can I find the numbered files in TC using Everything.
That is not only for numbered files.
A wildcard like *xx.* has the same behavior.

Re: Add 'Everything' hotkey in the "Find Files" menu

Posted: 2021-07-08, 17:32 UTC
by tuska
2ymmv
See also: Why no hits for this?