Lister, Euro sign

[grmmx]

There is a problem with the display of the Euro sign by the internal viewer (Lister) with default settings.
Example, character set:
₨ ₩ ₪ ₫ € ₭ ₮ ₯ ₰
All symbols are displayed correctly, except for the Euro sign. Instead of the Euro sign - a black square:
₨ ₩ ₪ ₫ ■ ₭ ₮ ₯ ₰
Most likely, this problem exists in all versions of Total Commander. I checked versions: 6.56, 7.50, 10.00, 10.50

[Horst.Epp]

No such problem here with the € sign.

[Gral]

I cannot confirm this.
More info needed: did error occurs for both bitness version? your system version and bitness, encoding of file (ANSI, UTF-8, UTF-16, BOM - yes or not) and your locale settings for ANSI.

[grmmx]

I cannot confirm this.
More info needed: did error occurs for both bitness version?

Checked for x64 version.

your system version and bitness

Windows 10 x64

encoding of file (ANSI, UTF-8, UTF-16, BOM - yes or not)

UTF-8 BOM, UTF-16

your locale settings for ANSI.

The problem only occurs in the Lister for the Euro sign. With any other symbols, I did not notice any problems in Lister.
The Euro sign is perfectly displayed in the system, everywhere. Notepad++ and "Windows notepad" are fine too.

[Stefan2]

2grmmx
Maybe check "Lister > Options > Configure,,, > Font" which font is used there.





 

[grmmx]

2grmmx
Maybe check "Lister > Options > Configure,,, > Font" which font is used there. 

All "Lister" settings are standard, by default. Font "Lister" by default: for ANSI - Fixedsys, for ASCII - Terminal.

System: Windows 10 x64. Fonts in the system did not change, standard.

[AntonyD]

Looks like the problem indeed is inside the "Fixedsys" font. If I use it - I can easily confirm the bug.
If I choose the "Consolas" font for example - there is no such a bug....

[hi5]

If you do want to use Fixedsys, google "Fixedsys Excelsior 3.01" which is an extended version which includes many more characters including the euro sign.

[Usher]

2hi5
Fixedsys Excelsior 3.01 is NOT a monospaced font. It's a TrueType duospaced font with metrics similar to system raster font Fixedsys.fon, see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duospaced_font
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixedsys
It can't be set as ANSI/ASCII font in Lister using it's "Configure..." option. If you make change manually in wincmd.ini, you won't be able to switch encoding between ANSI and ASCII with A and S as hotkeys.

Note that Fixedsys provided with system should work properly if there is no problem with font cache. If there's something wrong, you should delete file
%SYSTEMROOT%\System32\FNTCACHE.DAT (as Administrator) and restart Windows.

[ghisler(Author)]

I don't think that this can be fixed when the font itself is missing the Euro sign. Normally Windows does font substitution, but the Euro sign is in the basic character set and will not be substituted.

[hi5]

Fixedsys Excelsior 3.01 is NOT a monospaced font.

The wikipedia link has the old archived website I couldn't find earlier - more details for the curious https://web.archive.org/web/20190127173808/http://www.fixedsysexcelsior.com/information/faq.htm
(I used it for many years as "monospace" and it worked well, even if it wasn't a monospaced font, with a 4K monitor it ain't pretty so I ditched it, still great font though)

[petermad]

Hmm, I copied your first test line ( ₨ ₩ ₪ ₫ € ₭ ₮ ₯ ₰ ) and pasted into notepad and saved the file at Unicode, UTF8(with and without BOM), ANSI and UFT16LE

And execept for the ANSI file Lister shows all the characters correct, and in the ANSI fil the only correct character is the €
See ANSI: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/euro-ansi.png
See UTF8BOM: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/euro-utf8bom.png
See UTF8: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/euro-utf8.png
See Unicode (UTF16BE): https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/euro-unic.png
See UTF16LE): https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/euro-utf16le.png

My testfiles can be downloaded at https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/euro-test.zip

I have testet it under Windows 7 and Windows 10 21H2 with Fixedsys font

[AntonyD]

with Fixedsys font

Looks like this font has different content for different regions?
MY version of this preinstalled font at my home Windows 10 21H2 and in the office Windows 10 LTSC 2019 shows that there is no such symbol.
Thus IMHO we should agreed, that TC in the upcoming release version should be installed with some predefined FONTS which MUST cover the basis UNIchars. As for ANSI so and for ASCII cases of viewing capabilities of the Lister window

[petermad]

2AntonDudarenko
Except for c8514fix.fon non of by "fix" fonts contains €, so when it is shown in my Lister it must be becaus of font substitution, which for some reason doesn't seem to work on your computer.

How about if you download https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/euro-test.zip and open the file euro-ansi.txt in Notepad - do you see the € there?

[AntonyD]

open the file euro-ansi.txt in Notepad - do you see the € there?

of course no. I even theoretically cannot understand why it could happen

PS. Stop - theoretically now I think understood. IF for the chosen font i will start to change the encoding - from my native 1251 to 1250/1252 - then I will start to see this char. BUT this process - changing the encodings - is not too familiar and comprehensible to us.