Total Commander

Example for clarification.

We have:
file - Its.my.file.txt
directory - Its.my.directory

And single command: Expectations for result after compression file or directory:
Its.my.file.7z
Its.my.directory.7z

Reality:
Its.my.7z
Its.my.7z

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Another Example Expectations:
Its.my.file.7z
Its.my.directory.7z

Reality:
Its.my.file.txt.7z
Its.my.7z

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One more Expectations:
Its.my.file.rar
Its.my.directory.rar

Reality:
Its.my.file.rar
Its.my.rar

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Suggestion:
Parameter for file name without extension or directory name (considering that directories don't have extension in common sense).

@Gral
If you tried to offer alternative, than it will be like to avoid problem when names contain spaces.
But it's not solution even close. Because if we compressed several files (@%WL) - than %N return names WITH extensions.

Suggestion for clear file name and clear directory name without cutting or extension.

PS. Added another examples.

when your folder is called Its.my.directory and you use the parameter %O then %O = Its.my because you told tc to look for the first point from the right side and only take everything left of the point as a filename.

and for me Its.my.file.txt with turns it into Its.my.file.7z as expected.

LonerD wrote: 2023-05-28, 00:58 UTC @Gral
If you tried to offer alternative, than it will be like

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a -ad -scsUTF-16LE "%P"%N".7z" @%WL

to avoid problem when names contain spaces.
But it's not solution even close. Because if we compressed several files (@%WL) - than %N return names WITH extensions.

Suggestion for clear file name and clear directory name without cutting or extension.

PS. Added another examples.

when you want no cutting then why use %O in the firstplace?

ps: if you want no cutting of the filename dont use . in directory name but instead _

Sir_SiLvA wrote: 2023-05-28, 01:14 UTC dont use . in directory name but instead _

You suggest to rename ALL directories on ALL computers and on ALL disks where I run Total Commander ?

Sir_SiLvA wrote: 2023-05-28, 01:14 UTCwhen you want no cutting then why use %O in the firstplace?

Because TC doesn't have another more suitable parameters
That's why this topic was created - suggestion for new parameter like %O or %N, but with clear uncut name and without extension.

%O for file and %Q%N for folder in one parameter.
Support++

2LonerD
Haven't you made a mistake anywhere? Some results look unpredictable.

%O for file and %Q%N for folder in one parameter.

%Q is already used for other purpose:

Help wrote:%Q Turn off automatic quotation marks around certain parameters like %P%N when the name contains a space. The user will then have to place them by himself.

petermad wrote: 2023-05-28, 14:13 UTC

%O for file and %Q%N for folder in one parameter.

%Q is already used for other purpose:

I want to remind you that %Q was added at my request.
Where do you see in my sentence that I propose to apply %Q for something else? Don't confuse.

2Fla$her

Where do you see in my proposal that I propose to apply %Q for something else?

Then please explain what you mean by:

%O for file and %Q%N for folder in one parameter.
Support++

I suggest a new parameter %ON

The description should be:
%ON works as %O for files and as %N for directories.

petermad wrote: 2023-05-28, 14:32 UTC Then please explain what you mean by:

I wrote "in one parameter". I didn't suggest a name.
Let it be %o, which will return the result as %O for a file or %Q%N for a folder.

%O doesn't return quotes, because it is often used in a construct with suffixes like .ext.
So, for consistency and convenience for the folder, it's logical to return a value similar to %Q%N, and not %N.
It was mentioned above.

2Fla$her
Just to be clear - what you meant, written in a comlete sentence including a verb was:

"Support++ for a new parameter that works like %O for files and like %Q%N for folders."

See, I read your telegram style post, as if you wanted a new modifier parameter (%Q) that would make %N work as %O for folders - my mistake.

%O doesn't return quotes, because it is often used in a construct with suffixes like .ext.
So, for consistency and convenience for the folder, it's logical to return a value similar to %Q%N, and not %N.

Sure - so let me change my proposal to:
I suggest a new parameter %ON

The description should be:
%ON works as %O for files and as %N for directories without auto-quotes.

petermad wrote: 2023-05-28, 15:25 UTC Just to be clear - what you meant, written in a comlete sentence including a verb was:

It was a concise name of the request, there was no need for any verb.

petermad wrote: 2023-05-28, 15:25 UTC Sure - so let me change my proposal to:
I suggest a new parameter %ON

The description should be:
%ON woks as %O for files and as %N for directories without auto-quotes.

That seems like a point at which it would be better to get finally some script support
for the name field like >[file:%N|dir:%A] to achive what petermad described.