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Will there ever be a TC Linux version?

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Hello!

Will there ever be a TC version for Linux? Wine with TC is not quite the same.
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GusTech wrote: 2023-07-26, 21:25 UTCWill there ever be a TC version for Linux?
Christian Ghisler has answered this question more than once in the past. The answer has always been "No."
The file-manager Double Commander is available on Linux as a genuine Linux application.
At the moment you cannot come any closer to "T.C. on Linux" than Double Commander.
Still, even D.C. on Linux is not quite the same as T.C.
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The main reason is that a lot of the functionality of Total Commander is within the plugins. They would all have to be rewritten for Linux, which is extremely unlikely to ever happen. When you look at the available 64-bit plugins, there are still a lot missing which were never ported from 32-bit, although it's often just a simple recompile. If you need any specific plugins on Linux, you can now use the Windows version via Wine. Otherwise I personally recommend the file manager "Krusader".
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ghisler(Author) wrote: 2023-07-27, 09:39 UTC The main reason is that a lot of the functionality of Total Commander is within the plugins.
I think that is a weird statement. It sounds lik you are suggesting that Total Commander has limited value without plugins.
Personally, I don't use any plugins and I think many people don't too. The basic functionality has plenty value. Plugins are extra.
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Re: TC Linux version?

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karlchen wrote: 2023-07-27, 07:55 UTC
GusTech wrote: 2023-07-26, 21:25 UTCWill there ever be a TC version for Linux?
Christian Ghisler has answered this question more than once in the past. The answer has always been "No."
The file-manager Double Commander is available on Linux as a genuine Linux application.
At the moment you cannot come any closer to "T.C. on Linux" than Double Commander.
Still, even D.C. on Linux is not quite the same as T.C.
Hello there!

Thanks for the reply. This has probably been answered before and I logged in here for the first time yesterday. Couldn't find any other posts on the subject on the fly so thought I'd ask with my first post here =)

I have other options in linux that work fine, was just a question as I like TC the best. Went straight from NC to TC(WC) which I have used for over 20++ years.
ghisler(Author) wrote: 2023-07-27, 09:39 UTC The main reason is that a lot of the functionality of Total Commander is within the plugins. They would all have to be rewritten for Linux, which is extremely unlikely to ever happen. When you look at the available 64-bit plugins, there are still a lot missing which were never ported from 32-bit, although it's often just a simple recompile. If you need any specific plugins on Linux, you can now use the Windows version via Wine. Otherwise I personally recommend the file manager "Krusader".
Totally get it, I think it's absolutely incredible that there are still updates and developments! As with many other things, the good old stuff disappears. Keep up the good work!!
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In Linux, and on macOS, I mainly use Midnight Commander. Mostly because I use MC in the Terminal only.
Never even tried running TC via emulators on either system.
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ghisler(Author) wrote: 2023-07-27, 09:39 UTC The main reason is that a lot of the functionality of Total Commander is within the plugins.
Sorry to butt in, but there's an extremely high likelihood that these plugins aren't available for Linux, because TC isn't. Not the other way round like you seem to be suggesting.

Perhaps the mere existence of TC on Linux (natively) will be enough motivation and encouragement for some of the plugins to take the same step.

Nevertheless, a plugin-less TC would be a massive step forwards in the motivation to finally get around to switching to Linux.

You could also take a totally different turn for plugins: allow them to be written in an architecture-agnostic framework, like Python or Javascript. This will also solve the x64 availability challenge you mentioned (not to mention TC for Windows on ARM).
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Thany wrote: 2023-08-29, 15:28 UTC
ghisler(Author) wrote: 2023-07-27, 09:39 UTC The main reason is that a lot of the functionality of Total Commander is within the plugins.
Sorry to butt in, but there's an extremely high likelihood that these plugins aren't available for Linux, because TC isn't. Not the other way round like you seem to be suggesting.

Perhaps the mere existence of TC on Linux (natively) will be enough motivation and encouragement for some of the plugins to take the same step.

Nevertheless, a plugin-less TC would be a massive step forwards in the motivation to finally get around to switching to Linux.

You could also take a totally different turn for plugins: allow them to be written in an architecture-agnostic framework, like Python or Javascript. This will also solve the x64 availability challenge you mentioned (not to mention TC for Windows on ARM).
Tc is running without any problems under Linux (via wine), there are no disadvantages. On the contrary, even the SFTP plugin, for example, can be used under Linux. So there is no reason to port it. And what is special about 'native'? Native is over and out. ;-)

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JOUBE wrote: 2023-08-29, 15:37 UTCTc is running without any problems under Linux (via wine), there are no disadvantages.
Yes, there are disadvantages. Due to the translation layer, it's a lot slower and/or causes much higher CPU usage than a native program, especially for resource intensive tasks that involve GUI updates, networking and disk access. Also, hotkeys like Ctrl+Alt+Fx won't work because they're usually caught by the system. These things are not specific to TC or even Windows programs running in Wine. Nonetheless they should be named rather than saying "everything is fine", IMO.

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As Christian said Krusader is a good alternative for Linux.
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I have personally tried all of them and the most Total Commander-ish (and my fave) is Double Commander, by far. It even accepts wcx, wlx, wdx plugins (compiled for linux, it has to be said). But operation, navigation and file operations are almost (if not) identical
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Total Commander for Linux

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Hi All,
sorry if that question could be asked various times, but i can't understand why TC is not available for Linux distro, as it it available for Android

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And whey don't you search the forums first.
Get the answers from it.
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Re: Total Commander for Linux

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Moderator message from: white » 2023-11-10, 12:13 UTC

pdossi wrote: 2023-11-10, 12:01 UTC sorry if that question could be asked various times, but i can't understand why TC is not available for Linux distro, as it it available for Android
Merged with existing thread about the subject.
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Re: Will there ever be a TC Linux version?

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It would be still so wonderful to have a proper Linux version...
With windows 11 on the horizon, I just cannot force myself to enjoy all of it - the spyware, making the interface usable, navigating into new mangled menus... If I have to do all of it, it may be better to go Linux. Most of the software works there. Except for the Total Commander :(
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