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Use the button and check the box to start minimized. Why are some programs not minimized?

Posted: 2024-11-17, 17:34 UTC
by xxxdo1
Use the button and check the box to start minimized.
Why are some programs not minimized?

Is there any way to force these programs to start minimized?

Re: Use the button and check the box to start minimized. Why are some programs not minimized?

Posted: 2024-11-17, 17:38 UTC
by Horst.Epp
TC can't force the executing tool to run minimized.
You have to look for the options of the called program.
Many tools remember their last state, but not all.

Re: Use the button and check the box to start minimized. Why are some programs not minimized?

Posted: 2024-11-17, 17:48 UTC
by xxxdo1
2Horst.Epp
This program does not have any command parameter options, how can I force it to start minimized?
Is there an external tool that can do this?

Re: Use the button and check the box to start minimized. Why are some programs not minimized?

Posted: 2024-11-17, 20:13 UTC
by Fla$her
xxxdo1 wrote: 2024-11-17, 17:34 UTC Why are some programs not minimized?
For example?

Re: Use the button and check the box to start minimized. Why are some programs not minimized?

Posted: 2024-11-18, 07:32 UTC
by xxxdo1
2Fla$her
For example, I used "Neat Download Manager", which is a multi-threaded downloader.
https://www.neatdownloadmanager.com/index.php/en/

I checked the option to start minimized on the button, but it did not start minimized. And it did not have any startup parameters.
How can I force it to start minimized in this case?

Re: Use the button and check the box to start minimized. Why are some programs not minimized?

Posted: 2024-11-18, 10:40 UTC
by ghisler(Author)
You can't. The program has to handle either a command line parameter, or handle the parameter nCmdShow in WinMain, which could be set to SW_SHOWMINIMIZED or SW_SHOWNOACTIVATE. Total Commander itself handles this parameter, but for example the Total Commander installer does not.

You would have to ask the developer(s) to add this.

Re: Use the button and check the box to start minimized. Why are some programs not minimized?

Posted: 2024-11-18, 11:40 UTC
by xxxdo1
I use a script to minimize it after it starts, but I haven't found a way to force it to minimize when it starts.

Re: Use the button and check the box to start minimized. Why are some programs not minimized?

Posted: 2024-11-18, 18:07 UTC
by Fla$her
xxxdo1 wrote: 2024-11-18, 11:40 UTC but I haven't found a way to force it to minimize when it starts.
There is no such way.

Re: Use the button and check the box to start minimized. Why are some programs not minimized?

Posted: 2024-11-19, 06:52 UTC
by nsp
xxxdo1 wrote: 2024-11-18, 07:32 UTC How can I force it to start minimized in this case?
You can use the start command to start minimized, see the following sample to download from clipboard.

Code: Select all

TOTALCMD#BAR#DATA
cmd.exe /c start "" /min %COMMANDER_PATH%\tools\HTTP_Downloader\HTTP_Downloader.exe
 --immediate  --url %|$CLIPBOARD|%
%COMMANDER_PATH%\tools\HTTP_Downloader\HTTP_Downloader.exe
Downloader - CLIPBOARD
%COMMANDER_PATH%\tools\HTTP_Downloader\

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Re: Use the button and check the box to start minimized. Why are some programs not minimized?

Posted: 2024-11-19, 12:41 UTC
by Fla$her
2nsp
And how is this different from the minimize option in the button? C HTTP_Downloader, apparently, will work, but with the mentioned NeatDM it will not.