[TC 11.57rc3/4] - quick view, delete, quick view panel gets focus vs up/down navigation in file panel

[hi5]

What I've now observed is that the moment I press the DEL key, the focus shifts to the QV panel and stays there, even if I cancel the DELete action, it doesn't matter which plugin, it happens all the time for me.

I've sent my wincmd.ini and a recording of what I see to support@ (same subject line) hopefully that leads to something.

[ghisler(Author)]

Which plugin? I tried a few, but in most, the delete key das absolutely nothing, e.g.
hexviewer
cudalister
gpxlister
ebcdicview
photoviewer
slister
ulister
fileinfo
iclview
tcmediainfo
<Explorer>-View
Internal media player

The only one causing problems here is imagine, which offers to delete the file.

[petermad]

What I've now observed is that the moment I press the DEL key, the focus shifts to the QV panel...

2ghisler(Author)
Apparently the Del key is pressed when the file panel - not the quick view panel - is in focus

[hi5]

Petermad is correct.

To clarify once more I ALWAYS STAY, AND WANT TO STAY in the file panel.
I never press DELETE in the QV panel, and I don't make the QV panel active myself.
The QV panel BECOMES active by itself - it's like something is sending TAB
This never happened until RC3 at least - I don't know about RC2 - but RC1 "worked as expected".

(if you have received my email you can observe it yourself in the recording)

Edit: it has nothing to do with the imagine or sliter plugin or any particular plugin for that matter, I'm sorry I brought it up now

[hi5]

OK, Windows 10, tc32, RC4

1. I created a button with just this command: cm_Delete
2. I QuickView a file (not an IMAGE!!! or multimedia file) that uses a plugin (not telling which )
3. I REMAIN IN THE FILE PANEL.
4. I press the button to delete the file (so I don't press DEL or F8) but click the button with the mouse, can't make it any clearer than this.

What I see: the FOCUS IS SWITCHED to the QUICK VIEW panel BEFORE the DELETE dialog comes up. No matter what I do next (yes, no, cancel) the focus remains ON THE QUICK VIEW panel - and I now have to TAB back to the filelist.

Something is switching focus, I'm not doing it, it is the DELETE action (either DEL, F8 or cm_Delete) that does this.

Edit: update to add "not a multimedia file, see MOV file report earlier and below)

[hi5]

AHA the plot thickens:

IT ONLY occurs when you have the QUICK VIEW on the LEFT, and the FILE LIST on the RIGHT!
If you have the file list left, quickview right the error doesn't happen and the focus remains on the file list as it should.

|QV|File list| = focus shifts to quick view when using delete

|File list|QV| = focus remains on file list when using delete

[tuska]

Deleted as inaccurate.

[ghisler(Author)]

1. I created a button with just this command: cm_Delete
2. I QuickView a file (not an IMAGE!!! or multimedia file) that uses a plugin (not telling which )
3. I REMAIN IN THE FILE PANEL.
4. I press the button to delete the file (so I don't press DEL or F8) but click the button with the mouse, can't make it any clearer than this.

I cannot reproduce that. I tried with TC 32-bit and 64-bit, and with the file list on the left and on the right. The cursor always stayed on the file list, also when cancelling cm_Delete. It must be depending on the plugin - I tried a few, no difference.

[hi5]

Perhaps petermad can now reproduce it with the QV panel on the LEFT as he indicated he did see it happening once. I'm confident it has nothing to do with a specific or series of plugins unless I'm extremely unlucky.

If I create a new ini and start adding a few plugins (the same I normally use and where it happens) it doesn't happen either - so therefore I suspect plugins themselves are not the culprit. There is apparently a combination of settings that is "unique" to my setup which makes it trigger something. Especially as it only happens when the QV panel is on the LEFT.

[petermad]

Perhaps petermad can now reproduce it with the QV panel on the LEFT

No I still cannot reproduce, not on the left side either.

Could you list the plugins you have installed it, when you start experiencing it?

[hi5]

I'm sure the plugin doesn't matter, below is what I have. I don't use them all as they are never called automatically or I just tried them out once and never removed them.

Additional test: I've also installed WinInspector to see if there was a difference between the left/right panel in window messages but I don't see there is a difference.

Second test:

I removed all plugins, the [listerplugins] section in wincmd.ini was empty, all files in the WLX folder removed. When I QV a file no plugins are used and the shift in focus DOES NOT happen and I remain in the file list panel.

As soon as I add ONE plugin, only one, to test, the problem appears:

Using DELETE switches focus BEFORE the delete dialog comes up. I tried csvtab, ampview, redcell, and gpxlister - I could try all the others but I'm sure the result will be the same. To clarify: I added one, tested it, problem occurs, remove plugin, check ini to make sure no lister plugins are installed and remove files from WLX folder, tried the next one etc. So 100% only one plugin is installed.

plugins I had/have:

Those with -- are never called by default and I had removed slister already and I all PDF viewers are actually deleted (no files in their wlx folder)

AmpView\
csvtab\
CudaLister\
EdgeViewer\ [removed]
eml\
Excellence\
GPXLister\
HTMLView\ --
Imagine\
MarkdownView\
mdview\
OOoViewer\
PhotoViewer\ --
RedCell\ --
RVLister\
slister\ [removed]
SQLLite\
SVGView\
TCPlayerLister\ --
TCSumatraPDF\ [removed]
TotalHLT\ --
VisualDirSize\
wlx_anytag\
wlx_pdfview\ [removed]

[ghisler(Author)]

That's a lot of plugins, can you narrow it down a bit?

[hi5]

It already happens with ONE plugin (I tried four as listed)
Edit: the shift in focus does not happen with a fresh ini and the same - say csvtab plugin - installed (so again only one plugin)

[hi5]

I think I found something. I only have one plugin installed, redcell. TC32, windows 10.

I started to delete entire sections from the wincmd.ini: close tc, delete section in a text editor, restart, test, etc.

As soon as I remove this [1280x1024 (8x16)] section, the problem no longer occurs.
So something in this section is causing a problem for me. When I put it back in, the problem appears again.

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[1280x1024 (8x16)]
SearchX=18
SearchY=69
SearchDX=1206
SearchDY=462
SearchMax=0
CompareX=134
CompareY=271
CompareDX=925
CompareDY=457
CompareMax=1
CompareDivider=579
TreeDlgX=349
TreeDlgY=271
TreeDlgDX=700
TreeDlgDY=409
TreeDlgMax=0
FontSize=10
FontName=Microsoft Sans Serif
FontSizeWindow=11
FontNameWindow=Microsoft Sans Serif
FontCharsetWindow=1
FontWeight=700
FontWeightWindow=400
FontNameDialog=Microsoft Sans Serif
FontSizeDialog=11
FontCharsetDialog=1
maximized=0
x=278
y=196
dx=936
dy=710
Divider=500
DividerQuickView=500
DividerComments=500
Tabstops=184,190,246,136,416,93
monitor(0,0,1280,1024;96)=278,196,936,710
RenameX=284
RenameY=318
RenameDX=835
RenameDY=480
RenameMax=0
RenameTabs=170,283,1025,1136,1413
ConnectX=0
ConnectY=372
ConnectDX=790
ConnectDY=478
ConnectMax=0
DriveSelX=353
DriveSelY=253
DriveSelDX=320
DriveSelDY=250
DriveSelMax=0
CmdSelX=344
CmdSelY=377
CmdSelDX=898
CmdSelDY=371
CmdSelMax=0
MenuChangeX=385
MenuChangeY=356
MenuChangeDX=680
MenuChangeDY=400
MenuChangeMax=0
PluginSelX=752
PluginSelY=337
PluginSelDX=480
PluginSelDY=480
PluginSelMax=0
CustColumnX=265
CustColumnY=505
CustColumnDX=705
CustColumnDY=400
CustColumnMax=0
IconsInMenus_96=0
Iconsize32=16
Iconsize32_dpi=96
FontCharset=1
SyncX=208
SyncY=202
SyncDX=913
SyncDY=622
SyncMax=0
SyncTabs=128,211,343,375,503,587
SelectDuplicatesX=412
SelectDuplicatesY=241
SelectDuplicatesDX=667
SelectDuplicatesDY=619
SelectDuplicatesMax=0
PrintX=295
PrintY=228
PrintDX=901
PrintDY=645
PrintMax=0

Edit as soon as I add the above section to the new test.ini I had, with csvtab, the problem start to occur. So focus to quicview before the delete dialog comes up.

[petermad]

2hi5
I tried your [1280x1024 (8x16)] but as [1920x1080 (8x16)] I dont have 1280x1024

I could not reproduce it in 32bit TC, also not if I installed csvtab 1.0.7 as the only plugin

is 1280x1024 the resolution you are actually running?