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JohnFredC
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 Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:44 pm Post subject: W32/Induc-A virus infects Delphi sysconst.dcu |
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I accidently ran across this article today and just for the h*** of it scanned my Delphi 5 folder.
Lo and behold, there it was. Instant panic mode, but luckily none of my compiled executables had been infected yet, so nothing bad has left my shop.
Virus scanned all my volumes and found it in two products: 3DImageCommander and IconCommander.
Heads up everyone. A good reason to do a complete virus scan more frequently. My Delphi must have been infected before the virus hit the Avast! database.
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ZeLen1y
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Plugins infected in my tc folder 
· ICLRead 1.4.wcx
· ICLView 5.5.2009.wlx
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fenix_productions
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2ZeLen1y
I think it's a false alarm in your case. These plugins do not seem to be written in Delphi.
I've checked with few tools and each one of them reports UPX so this is rather old "stupid antivirus software" case.
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karlchen
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Hi, folks.
With respect to the download files wcx_ICLRead_1.4.1.zip and wlx_ICLView_5.5.2009.zip:
+ Kaspersky Online File Scan considers them both clean (today 12:30 METDST)
+ Our Symantec AV 10.1.5, definitions: 17.08.2009 considers them both clean.
Either of two assumptions will be true very likely:
- Kaspersky and our Symantec AV are both wrong and they files are infected.
- Kaspersky and Symantec are right, the files are clean. All those considering them infected have implemented their detection patterns for W32/Induc too carelessly.
Time will tell which of the two assumptions is right and which one is wrong.
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ghisler(Author)
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Thanks for the warning, I will inform the developer of these plugins, and the webmaster of wincmd.ru.
Btw, Total Commander itself isn't in danger - it's written in Delphi 2, which isn't affected by the virus. I didn't have any infected plugins installed either, only older versions.
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DrShark
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| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:39 am Post subject: |
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CopyToTabs and Tc_But_Exe TC addons and Mover.wcx are infected too. These files can be successfully treated by Kaspersky with latest virus bases.
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karlchen
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| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Tested and confirmed! 
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2ZeLen1y
I run Symantec and have gotten no such errors.
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Horst.Epp
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| Boofo wrote: | 2ZeLen1y
I run Symantec and have gotten no such errors. |
Kapersky ist not alone.
Avira Antivir finds it and also Sophos.
So don't wait until your Symantex finds it to. |
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DrShark
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Uploaded files treated by Kaspersky:
http://www.multiupload.com/24CLO0IRS4
(mover.wcx from link above; CopyToTabs 4.2.6.5 and 5.0; TC_But_Exe)
http://www.multiupload.com/92ZK0UJY67
(CopyToTabs 5.5)
But its still recommend to wait for official updates from plugin & addon authors.
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fenix_productions
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| ZeLen1y wrote: | 2fenix_productions
You think that Nod, DrWeb, Kaspersky or Symantec are "stupid antivirus software" ? |
Yes. I consider each antivirus as stupid if it says that something is infected just because it is UPXed. I saw many threads on many boards about "infected" UPX. Even Wikipedia has some information about it.
It is also stupid the way I saw for few applications (i.e. Kaspersky):
- something is considered as dangerous,
- notice authors about false alert to get updated database,
- few updates later reported entry is removed and the same executable is "bad" once again.
There are no other words to name it.
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karlchen
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Enumerating the mistakes which AV producers have made and will make - there is no perfect AV product around - will not help preventing W32/Induc from spreading in the wild.
The point is that Delphi developers (Delphi v4 and higher) may be unknowingly distributing an infected Delphi unit inside everything they compile and link. (cf. Sophos on W32/Induc-A, Virus infects development environment)
No need to panic, but a good reason
+ to update the AV definition files and do a full system scan
+ to upload any download to Virustotal first in the near future
+ keep in mind that there is not the one-and-only AV product which will always be right
Kind regards,
Karl
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I'm not getting either one of those links to load. All I get is a white page.
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Not confirmed with latest avira personal.
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