Using external secure erase programs

[Lesmo16]

... and i delete some files with another program is not refreshed.

What I say: A function similar to Erase should be internal!

[Clo]

2Lesmo16
Hello !
¤ A bit apart the topic:
- Do you mean a secure eraser which writes "0"s then "1"s on the HD n… times ? If “Yes”, I agree. I'm using sometimes a small external program to do this (i.e. to delete renamed viruses /spies in quarantine folders), but it's a pretty "gymnastic". It should be great to get such a function as built-in…

 Kind regards,
Claude
Clo

[Lesmo16]

@Clo:

Do you mean a secure eraser which writes "0"s then "1"s on the HD n… times ?

Yes, of course, that's what I mean!

There is a long thread in the German section about this feature request (hope you can understand it).
But as stated in this thread, ghisler(Author) is strictly against such a feature.

[Clo]

2Lesmo16
Nice to hear I got you alright !

Unfortunately, I don't read German a lot… I think that a short abstract in English'ld be very interesting

But as stated in this thread, ghisler(Author) is strictly against such a feature .

- I think that our Dear Author is not right (like the Kings said in France when they were wrong!). Just my own opinion, indeed…
- At least, we could request a tool adapted to TC…
• The one I use is quite good and freeware, but in French (problem for many users, although I wrote an English small manual with {fake} screen-shots in English) and not designed to be used as a TC-partner…

  KR
Claude
Clo

[norfie]

I think that our Dear Author is not right

Ahemmm, unfortunately there is no M$ API for "secure" erase. Therefore this would be a big challenge because a "secure" eraser has nothing to do with file managment. "Secure" eraser is more a task force for a disk manager. (BTW: I cannot see any example of use for "secure" file erasing.)

[sas2000]

 
AES Tc plugin can wipe files after encryption, maybe AES author can modify his plugin to be used for secure erase.
 

[icfu]

Even the wipe free space option of SDelete uses well documented API calls for file management only, it can even securely overwrite unused MFT entries. All needed APIs are documented in file management section on MSDN, no disk management is needed here.

@sas2000:
There already are two plugins for secure file erasing, Wipe WFX and Wipe WCX.

Icfu

[Stance]

Hello,
Freeware -tools for secure erasing:
http://www.snapfiles.com/freeware/security/fwerase.html
please take a look at "Eraser", too.

Kind regards
Stance

[Clo]

2icfu
Hi Jeff !
- I gave a try to Wipe WFX…
• Strange : displays a FTP-Send dialogue when you D&D a file
• Worse : displays a FTP error-message when you move a file onto the location of the file to erase via D&D+Shift…
- I couln't find Wipe WCX (neither on totalcmd.net nor on the TC-site)
- Such a plugin - even debugged - doesn't erase a file directly "on the spot" in the file-list where it's selected… Not handy.
- I would prefer something similar to the partnership Lister / XnView/IrfanView/UniView.
- I mean : in the Copy / Delete dialog, to get means in order to choose an eraser partner-program, and an option to use it via an internal command and a standard or customized shortcut for the Keyboard Knights
{ Apart : I know, X-mas is far yet, but my birthday is soon : just six days more !}

 V G
Claude
Clo

[Clo]

2Stance
Hello !
- From the site you link, I don't see a freeware program, I saw :
"BCwipe 3.06.04
Shareware US-$ 39.95 …" (!)

 K R
Claude
Clo

[icfu]

• Strange : displays a FTP-Send dialogue when you D&D a file

Not here, sorry.

• Worse : displays a FTP error-message when you move a file onto the location of the file to erase via D&D+Shift…

Don't understand that.

- I couln't find Wipe WCX (neither on totalcmd.net nor on the TC-site)

http://www.totalcmd.net/plugring/wipe.html
Search for "wipe".

- Such a plugin - even debugged - doesn't erase a file directly "on the spot" in the file-list where it's selected… Not handy.

I don't use it myself, I just mentioned it because of sas2000. Anyway, I don't think it's unhandy

- I would prefer something similar to the partnership Lister / XnView/IrfanView/UniView.
- I mean : in the Copy / Delete dialog, to get means in order to choose an eraser partner-program, and an option to use it via an internal command and a standard or customized shortcut for the Keyboard Knights

This has all been discussed in the above mentioned thread but because ghisler hasn't read the whole thread and obviously has no desires to talk about stuff he himself has no use for, he had no clue what to answer, so he answered that it's no good idea, like usual.
The norfie/nevidimka/Sir_Silva connection, whoever it was, I can't tell which Alter Ego writes at what time, did their best to give unqualified statements so my desires to start the discussion again end here.

I recommend a button with SDelete for everyday use and for getting rid of hardcore ghost entries on FAT/FAT32 use the vacant cluster shredding ability of Restoration:
http://www.geocities.jp/br_kato/

Icfu

[Clo]

2icfu
Hi again!

Not here, sorry.

Don't understand that.

- Sorry, I forgot to mention that I tested under Win 98 SE, where the behaviour is quite like I describe…

- I use too a button for the “EraserHead” program I use, this is a good workaround, but longer to handle…
- Thanks for the reply !

 V G
Claude
Clo

[norfie]

All needed APIs are documented in file management section on MSDN, no disk management is needed here.

This is nonsens. Maybe it would be a good idea you wouldn't post a link like SDelete only. It would be wise if you read this linked text carefully before too.

[Lesmo16]

Here's something for us to deal with ...

There's a command line version of Eraser in its installation folder, called Eraser Launcher.
It's the file ERASERL.EXE, which has to be integrated in TC.
I have it in my ButtonBar with parameters "-file %P%N" (without " of course),
and in StartMenu with <Ctrl+Alt+F8>.

Unfortunately it erases only one file at a time (the actual).
Any solution for erasing several marked files at once (using -queue) is highly appreciated.

[Edit="Nonsense after splitting the thread"]
Please post in this thread, although it's going more and more OT.
[/Edit]

1st BTW: Starting ERASERL without any parameter shows a short help screen!
2nd BTW: Thanks Hacker!

[Hacker]

Needs lst2multiinstance from http://clubtotal.free.fr/index.php?dir=TC_Tools/ .

Command:
C:\path\to\lst2mlt\l2m.exe

Parameters:
/L:"%L" /B:-file /X:"c:\path\to\Eraser\eraserl.exe" /E:-queue /W /G:0

HTH
Roman