[OT] Quarrels

[Stitscher]

Please Mods or Ghisler. Delete this "avatar". It's definitely an inhuman symbol.
And if Sosna is committed to this symbol delete him also.

Stitscher

[Sir_SiLvA]

Please Mods or Ghisler. Delete this "avatar". It's definitely an inhuman symbol.

can u prove that link pls

[Stitscher]

Please Mods or Ghisler. Delete this "avatar". It's definitely an inhuman symbol.

can u prove that link pls

Lock at the link Clo posted.
http://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=105569#105569
Or just use your google engine.

Stitscher

[Sosna]

eehh.. people, are you ok? Here is the page, where I took this symbol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikaner_Weerstandsbeweging

It's triskelion ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triskelion ), made from three 7, as opposite to 666! I understand that it looks similar to sw_ast!k, but it's not the same!

I agree to follow the rules of mr Ghisler's forum, I respect him, so I'm ready to change my avatar, but I like it, so I want to ask you all, if you allow me to leave it. (now I removed it). Thanks in advance, and I tell you again, It's not the symbol you think!

[Sir_SiLvA]

@Stitscher: ever read that side for urself ?
there is NOTHING about Sosna's Symbol

do u know the difference between 3 and 4?
do u know that the nazis did a lot of sh*t and took stuff from other cultures ?

[Stitscher]

@Stitscher: ever read that side for urself ?
there is NOTHING about Sosna's Symbol

Maybe to visit an eye specialist would help.

do u know the difference between 3 and 4?

Oh, the little tiger from your ava is coming out.

do u know that the nazis did a lot of sh*t and took stuff from other cultures ?

And?

To draw conclusions is not your strong point, isn't it!?

2Sosna
The link about "Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging" is not even better.

Stitscher

[Sosna]

2Stitscher
Maybe it is YOUR strong point then?
I already wrote, that it's only a symbol, it's not banned, and people like you begin to cry that it's 'inhuman', 'satanic', that I am offensive, etc.! I already removed this avatar, (also I could leave it), and asked people to allow me to leave it!

You think you know all about symbolics, etc? Did you know, that even sw_ast!ka was a normal symbol of sun, etc, and now people have to remove it only because of it's so called offensiveness and nontolerance!

Maybe it's better to value my behaviour and words, and not my avatar? (Or let me start crying that you have a cigaret in your avatar, and it's offensive for me, because my grandfather dyed because of cancer?) I didn't post anything offensive, and you just offer to delete my acount?

[Stitscher]

2Stitscher
Maybe it is YOUR strong point then?
I already wrote, that it's only a symbol, it's not banned, and people like you begin to cry that it's 'inhuman', 'satanic', that I am offensive, etc.!
......

Only a symbol!?
So just a simple question: Do you support a policy like from A_frikaner W_eerstands_beweging?

Stitscher

[Sosna]

2Stitscher
I don't understand what is your question for! If i write that I am hippy and pacifist, will you say: Well, leave this symbol?
I am here, on this forum, to speak about TC, and not about my political views, I'm not going to post offensive messages here, because it's not the right place to do it. So here it's only an avatar!
But I'll answer:
1. I do not believe in God, as AWB do
2. I have no relations to Africa, africaneers or smth.
3. My english is not so good to read their (AWB) manifests etc.
4. My political views are right wing, that's why I took THIS colors, and I took such symbol because I havent made my own avatar! But I repeat, here, at this forum, there are many people with different views, different races, and even if I don't like some of them, my respect for Mr. Ghisler will not allow me to post smth. about it!

[karlchen]

eehh.. people, are you ok?

Hi, Sosna.

Yes, we who object to racist and fascist symbols are definitely ok. Do not worry.

Here is the page, where I took this symbol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikaner_Weerstandsbeweging

As you link to the article and as you understand English, you must have realized that the Weerstandsbeweging is a racist movement who fights against racial equality. If you like their symbol nonetheless, this might indicate you like their racist attitude as well. I don't. Period.

so I'm ready to change my avatar, but I like it, so I want to ask you all, if you allow me to leave it. (now I removed it).

My answer definitely is I do not want to see any fascist and/or racist symbols anywhere in the world. This equals a no from my side.

So here it's only an avatar!

No, it is not, because it is a political symbol. It promotes a particular (unpleasant) political message. You should think about the question if you really like the things these symbols stand for. I hope you do not!

I am here, on this forum, to speak about TC, and not about my political views

Agreed, but then why the heck, don't you choose a funny, nice or ugly, but unpolitical avatar like all the others do?

Kind regards,
Karl

[Stitscher]

I don't understand what is your question for! If i write that I am hippy and pacifist, will you say: Well, leave this symbol?

The question was asked to get a simply answer like "Yes" or "No".

I am here, on this forum, to speak about TC, and not about my political views, I'm not going to post offensive messages here, because it's not the right place to do it. So here it's only an avatar!

Than you have to expect reactions to this avatar/the message you try to spread with this avatar.

But I'll answer:
1. I do not believe in God, as AWB do
2. I have no relations to Africa, africaneers or smth.
3. My english is not so good to read their (AWB) manifests etc.
4. My political views are right wing, that's why I took THIS colors, and I took such symbol because I havent made my own avatar! But I repeat, here, at this forum, there are many people with different views, different races, and even if I don't like some of them, my respect for Mr. Ghisler will not allow me to post smth. about it!

What a bummer!

Stitscher

[Sosna]

2Stitscher
I can't answer in 1 word, because it's doesn't matter to me, what are they doing in Africa! White people give a lot if civilisation (don't know correct word) to african people, so white's level was higher then africans, but this is Africans home, so white are guests there. (but winners do history, it's cynic truth, do you like it or not)

So, I just tell you - I don't know all details of thigns in Africa, so I can't make any opinion, because of the lack of knowledge!

I was going to make another avatar! but I haven't lot of time, so I just take THIS avatar temporary, because I like it's expressiveness and colors!

2karlchen
you know, In Ukraine there is a political party (of Yulia Timoshenko) - she took a symbol for her party from gays (I don't know why) - here is the link: http://2006.liga.net/news.asp?nid=183089 ! Her party doesn't support LGBT community, it's only a symbol! so My symbol is ALSO only a symbol!

Also, did you know, that lesbians took fasces (power in unity) as their symbol, and it was a fascist symbol at first? is there a relation?

Agreed, but then why the heck, don't you choose a funny, nice or ugly, but unpolitical avatar like all the others do?

- why if somebody take David's star, it's ok, and triskelion is bad?

OK, OK, i see, it's linked to politics, so you want me to change it. Ok, whould you mind, if I'll took something else, but in this colors? (without ODAL or another runes) ?

[AlleyKat]

Ehh uhmm excuse me, I normally don't participate in these mud-throwings, but just to be absolutely fair - the swastika is, in fact, a stolen and inverted sun symbol. I think you'll find it a problem talking all buddhists into removing it from their statues just because a couple of westeuropean countries find it offensive.
http://www.ironcircus.com/blog/000174.html

[Stitscher]

Ehh uhmm excuse me, I normally don't participate in these mud-throwings, but just to be absolutely fair - the swastika is, in fact, a stolen and inverted sun symbol. I think you'll find it a problem talking all buddhists into removing it from their statues just because a couple of westeuropean countries find it offensive.
http://www.ironcircus.com/blog/000174.html

Sorry, this is an incorrect comparison.

Stitscher

[Sosna]

Why? can you explain? why do you say only IT'S BAD, IT's INCORRECT, etc.? I took a symbol I like! David's Star is offensive for me, but it's not my business! I can make a picture with Ukrainian offensive speaches, set it as avatar, and you will not know what is it! Why do you, people, demand tolerance to all, but not to people's freedom of speach and avatars?