File Find: Problem with pasting special characters
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File Find: Problem with pasting special characters
Good afternoon
If I have the following string in the ClipBoard:
*•*.*
[• has Asc Value 149]
and paste this Text in *any* of the Textfields in TCMD's
File Find dialogue, then something like
*|*.*
is displayed.
Fortunately, TCMD searches right, but again does display
the wrong characters in the results window.
Kind regards,
Thomas
If I have the following string in the ClipBoard:
*•*.*
[• has Asc Value 149]
and paste this Text in *any* of the Textfields in TCMD's
File Find dialogue, then something like
*|*.*
is displayed.
Fortunately, TCMD searches right, but again does display
the wrong characters in the results window.
Kind regards,
Thomas
Confirmed,
but only in the case of a non true type font like "MS Sans serif" selected as "Dialog box font".
Solution:
Change the dialog box font to any other true type font like "Tahoma", "Trebuchet MS", or "Microsoft Sans serif".
It seems that "MS Sans serif" is still the default dialog box font when starting with a fresh ini-file!
Kind regards,
Holger
but only in the case of a non true type font like "MS Sans serif" selected as "Dialog box font".
Solution:
Change the dialog box font to any other true type font like "Tahoma", "Trebuchet MS", or "Microsoft Sans serif".
It seems that "MS Sans serif" is still the default dialog box font when starting with a fresh ini-file!
Kind regards,
Holger
Correct - and so far, no wild horses nor clo has been able to make Ghisler change thatIt seems that "MS Sans serif" is still the default dialog box font when starting with a fresh ini-file

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Danish Total Commander Translator
TC 11.51 32+64bit on Win XP 32bit & Win 7, 8.1 & 10 (22H2) 64bit, 'Everything' 1.5.0.1391a
TC 3.60b4 on Android 6, 13, 14
TC Extended Menus | TC Languagebar | TC Dark Help | PHSM-Calendar
Kill that crap !
2HolgerK
Hello !
• You are right, I can't reproduce that here, I use Zurich CN BT (narrow complete TT font).
• Unfortunately, MS Sans Serif is still the font in which the programme is written internally…
Hence, it springs up here and there from time to time…
- Some French-speaking users keeping old INIs have it still for ages, when it was the default for the dialogues etc.,
and never “put their noses” in the options to update them…
- That causes big issues for me to make correct translations (and rows with the Author !) …
- But yet, a complete “Dina” bitmap font exists (free of charge).
- I've sent it to the Author, hoping he'll use it when the programme is largely rewritten
(let's say, when the full Unicode support is implemented, so for 7.5 or 8.0, with a newer Delphi too)
“We all live in hope”, don't we ?
VG
Claude
Clo

• You are right, I can't reproduce that here, I use Zurich CN BT (narrow complete TT font).
• It should't ! In theory, the default font when installing is Microsoft Sans Serif which contains all needed characters……It seems that "MS Sans serif" is still the default dialog box font when starting with a fresh ini-file!
• Unfortunately, MS Sans Serif is still the font in which the programme is written internally…
Hence, it springs up here and there from time to time…
- Some French-speaking users keeping old INIs have it still for ages, when it was the default for the dialogues etc.,
and never “put their noses” in the options to update them…
- That causes big issues for me to make correct translations (and rows with the Author !) …
- But yet, a complete “Dina” bitmap font exists (free of charge).
- I've sent it to the Author, hoping he'll use it when the programme is largely rewritten
(let's say, when the full Unicode support is implemented, so for 7.5 or 8.0, with a newer Delphi too)
“We all live in hope”, don't we ?


Claude
Clo
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Strong sign of the zodiac
2petermad
Hello Peter !
• But still, “Horse” is my Chinese birth-year !
FR
Claude
Clo

• But still, “Horse” is my Chinese birth-year !


Claude
Clo
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That's not a Total Commander bug, MS just forgot some characters in "MS Sans Serif"...
Author of Total Commander
https://www.ghisler.com
https://www.ghisler.com
Thanks a lot for all the answers and the solution:
the dialog box font...
But: I never changed that, so it seems that TotalCommander
uses (used?) as default dialog box Font "MS Sans serif" and if
this is true, then it is a TotalCommander problem. [A 'default'
user is not able to recognize that he should change the font
to solve that problem.]
Kind regards,
Thomas
I had "Microsoft Sans serif" for all settings, except forChange the dialog box font to any other true type font like "Tahoma",
"Trebuchet MS", or "Microsoft Sans serif".
the dialog box font...
But: I never changed that, so it seems that TotalCommander
uses (used?) as default dialog box Font "MS Sans serif" and if
this is true, then it is a TotalCommander problem. [A 'default'
user is not able to recognize that he should change the font
to solve that problem.]
Kind regards,
Thomas
Euphemism
2ghisler(Author)
Good evening,
• 29 upper ANSI characters are missing in that font !
- Some parts of the programme use that hellish internal font you use for programming ( i.e. the drive hints…)
and it's impossible to write that one wishes properly…
• What about the Dina font for the programme-scripts ?
It's suitable, free, and though it supports only sizes 8 and 10 IIRC, this is not a big deal…
VG
Claude
Horse-Clo

• OMG ! “some characters” is a sweet euphemism !That's not a Total Commander bug, MS just forgot some characters in "MS Sans Serif"...
• 29 upper ANSI characters are missing in that font !

- Some parts of the programme use that hellish internal font you use for programming ( i.e. the drive hints…)
and it's impossible to write that one wishes properly…
• What about the Dina font for the programme-scripts ?
It's suitable, free, and though it supports only sizes 8 and 10 IIRC, this is not a big deal…

Claude
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2Clo
Hm, I also like the Dina font and use it already quite a while in my programming Editor.
But isn't Dina a monospace font? This might look a bit weird in Dialogs, plus it would need more room because even an 'l' occupies the full character width. But perhaps there exists a proportional version of Dina, too, I don't know that...
Hm, I also like the Dina font and use it already quite a while in my programming Editor.
But isn't Dina a monospace font? This might look a bit weird in Dialogs, plus it would need more room because even an 'l' occupies the full character width. But perhaps there exists a proportional version of Dina, too, I don't know that...
For years…
2StickyNomad
Hello !
• AFAIK, it is a fixed font, so usable at programming…
- This is not the point to use it for the dialogues, but simply to get a complete font in some locations
where the internal programming font springs up because any user-chosen font is not applied there.
• Currently like I said above, we might have Microsoft Sans Serif as the default font…
Under Win 9x, it can be replaced with Arial (complete) which exists even in Win3.1…
Use the [FontSubstitutes] section in <Win.ini>
- The most good plugins now are using it, or Tahoma we requested for some ones,
so we have no more font issues with them…
- I mean : As the internal scripts font, when the interface font is not configurable (that's rare for plugins).
Sigh…
VG
Claude
Clo

• AFAIK, it is a fixed font, so usable at programming…
- This is not the point to use it for the dialogues, but simply to get a complete font in some locations
where the internal programming font springs up because any user-chosen font is not applied there.
• Currently like I said above, we might have Microsoft Sans Serif as the default font…
Under Win 9x, it can be replaced with Arial (complete) which exists even in Win3.1…
Use the [FontSubstitutes] section in <Win.ini>
- The most good plugins now are using it, or Tahoma we requested for some ones,
so we have no more font issues with them…
- I mean : As the internal scripts font, when the interface font is not configurable (that's rare for plugins).
Sigh…

Claude
Clo
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Clo,
Roman
it is a fixed font, so usable at programming
Ahem, I am fairly confident that the default font and the font used when programming are two totally unrelated fonts.the internal programming font springs up because any user-chosen font is not applied there.
Roman
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Tout à fait !
2StickyNomad
Again…
- Yes, of course, indeed, naturally, obviously…
- For that purpose, Dina is much better !
VG
Claude
Clo

- Yes, of course, indeed, naturally, obviously…
- For that purpose, Dina is much better !

Claude
Clo
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Same!
2Hacker
Hello Roman !
• As far as I can see, the font in the resource-scripts and the one you get using a blank INI are both the MS Sans Serif crap…
KR
Claude
Clo

• As far as I can see, the font in the resource-scripts and the one you get using a blank INI are both the MS Sans Serif crap…

Claude
Clo
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