one BIG wish for next TC version

[pdavit]

Don't tell me that they already released TotalFrigateOpusMan !!!

That will never happen! Thank God it won't!

You just cannot have the best of every world. If you succeed you've become Gob. I doubt Christian is one!

You see, a faster car needs wider wheals to be more stable. Wider wheals increase weight and as a result reduce the speed. A workaround is a stronger engine but a stronger engine is heavier and bigger. A heavier engine reduces speed and its increased size produces more wind resistance. A workaround is...

[Sam York]

You see, a faster car needs wider wheals to be more stable. Wider wheals increase weight and as a result reduce the speed. A workaround is a stronger engine but a stronger engine is heavier and bigger. A heavier engine reduces speed and its increased size produces more wind resistance. A workaround is...

Concerning the issue discussed this post is one of the most interesting posts that I ever met on a forum board...

OK! So let's have another situation

For the above car to be ready to race on a national scale(e.g. making happy TC's users) or an a international scale(e.g. competition with other file managers to make possible to continue the development of the product or even "to win the title") such a car unfortunately(you already see how many problems you issued) first has to be built.

[Sam York]

writing CD's is more then writing to a floppy!
It's suffisant if the plugin is only a bridge between TC and the burning tool (like nero).

Nero unfortunately is not an "universal panaceum" for writing cds. In some cases you would need also Easy Cd Creator and not only ...

So you would write 3 plug-ins(generally it should cover almost any type of data cd) for 3 different softwares? Yet another pseudo-solution ... At least if those three should be all command-line and some of them free ...

[pdavit]

2 Sam

As this discussion tends to become more philosophical than practical and because I have to respect the keep-it-to-the-topic philosophy, I'll pass!

One question though. It seams that you like TC since you've taken the time to become a member of the forum but on the other hand you tend in a way to fight TC (correct me if I'm wrong). I guess it might be an approach where because you deeply love something you want it to become better which is probably your case, isn't it?

I guess the aggression of the race resulted in all the macho cars into distraction between each other while the little mini took the steady path and finished first!

[Jonas]

Nero unfortunately is not an "universal panaceum" for writing cds. In some cases you would need also Easy Cd Creator and not only ...
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At least if some of those three will all be command-line and some of them free ...

Well, I use Nero and CloneCD. But in 90% of all cases I simply drag my files onto the Nero-panel and click 'burn'. For this I'd love a TC-Plugin. If somebody would write a bridge between TC and Nero we had at least one way to write CDs via TC.
And Nero isn't free, but it's got an command-line interface, so writing a plugin shouldn't be too difficult. see http://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=1400

[Sam York]

DO integrates with the CD burning functionality of Windows XP so you can burn files to CD from right inside DO.

Maybe these is THE solution? If TC will implement this too, I guess that at least Xp users will be happy ...

[Sam York]

I guess it might be an approach where because you deeply love something you want it to become better which is probably your case, isn't it?

No one said that it's easy to build such a "car" but at least for staying in the race with the runner-ups it should be done. And before Innuendo giving me the tip with DO I thought that no one did that before ... But you see, that "car" that you talked about tends now to become a real provocation under the circumstances.

And I look at DO and I must say that WinFrigate or Speed Commander have to fight a long battle with DO for the issue named functionality ... What saves for now TC for this issue to don't become a decisive one is the incredible number of the useful plug-ins that appeared lately.

If plug-ins like Imagine, Ie view all packer plugins, isobin plug-in and others(a lot of them) wouldn't exist you couldn't view Office files a great number of image files and so on ... functions that are built-in in almost any important file manager.

Yes, I agree TC wouldn't be TC if that would happen also for TC(the above built-in functions) ... bugs will appear, TC will become slower, unstable ...

But recently looking on some "file manager comparing tests" in some IT magazines, TC wins at all chapters but loses big at functionality(those tests don't take in consideration plug-ins at any of the contestants(that's why Winamp doesn't score big points like in the past, too)).

Tooltips appeared recently in TC but other file managers took care of that long time ago ... For example Winfrigate & DO & I think Speed Commander too make programs like G-spot(displays detailed info about video files) or EncSpot Pro(displays detailed info about audio files) absolete.

Yes, a very important thing for me and I'm glad that for a lot of TC users and for Mr. Ghisler himself is the clean code "behind TC". But that "car" it seems that has to be built somehow.

[pdavit]

But that "car" it seems that has to be built somehow.

It is build day by day. As we all know by now the upcoming v6.0 of TC will include tons of new features and improvements.

A new era for "cars" that will include "immobilisers", "ABS", "airbags", "GPS" etc!

Oh, and one more thing. We have to be more realistic you know. TC is the project of a single developer. That's not an excuse and in a highly competitive world like this is, a take my hat off for Christian. He also maintains his website and lately he had to spend most of his development time on this forum since the old one crashed.

[ghisler(Author)]

TC already integrates with the CD burning facilities of XP, but only when you copy with copy+paste (Ctrl+C Tab Ctrl+V), because Microsoft made a mistake when implementing the burning functions and didn't support all functions. That's why you cannot save to CD from Word either.

[JackFoo]

About Nero integration with TC, it is true you can call Nero's API from different programs they (ahead) even supply an SDK for it; however wether or not you want to use it is another point, Nero's API is buggy (I've seen it at work on some other project) as hell, same reasoning that goes to IE integration should be implemented here.

There is a plugin for burning already though I'm not sure if it answers all the queries, in short just ask someone to write a burning plugin;

As to review magaziens, if they think TC looses on functionality maybe you shouldn't read them, it seems like they don't know sh*t... Plugin API is perfect for such tasks, as it can give users (such as yourself) the ability to use IE functions inside TC while not sacrificing stability/speed for others (me). Same logic goes to winamp and other similar programs.

Going back to the cars business, Mercedes and other car manufacturers don't make every part of the car, that's what contractors and sub-contractors are for.

Cheers.

[Sam York]

TC already integrates with the CD burning facilities of XP, but only when you copy with copy+paste (Ctrl+C Tab Ctrl+V)

VERY GOOD NEWS! Does also delete, rename, move, pack/unpack etc work on cd-rw cds?
I'll try this function when I'll get home!

[Sam York]

Oh, and one more thing. We have to be more realistic you know. TC is the project of a single developer. That's not an excuse and in a highly competitive world like this is, a take my hat off for Christian. He also maintains his website and lately he had to spend most of his development time on this forum since the old one crashed.

Yes, I'm aware of this, especially of the old forum crash. I also know that other competitors have also very small teams ... And what came for me as an amazing thing was to discover on a developers page that the programmer's team behind Activision's(UT 2003 etc) several successes was only formed by 12-13 people !!!! I thought only for a graphical engine like these or others you have to use at least 30 people, not talking about q&a team and so on to get the product ready ...

There is a plugin for burning already though I'm not sure if it answers all the queries, in short just ask someone to write a burning plugin

Where is this famous plug-in? I checked at Club Total ... And like we all that posted here agreed it must have only some basically functions like:
speed for burning, images creation/burning(like those in iso_bin plug-in) and the method applied.

Plugin API is perfect for such tasks, as it can give users (such as yourself) the ability to use IE functions inside TC while not sacrificing stability/speed for others (me). Same logic goes to winamp and other similar programs.

Going back to the cars business, Mercedes and other car manufacturers don't make every part of the car, that's what contractors and sub-contractors are for.

I think that for a good software to be made you require a clean code. Once achieved you need functionality.

As for those "cars" that it seems we're talking of them for a quite long period of time you should look at Ibm. Every inch of every computer is made only by them. And it shows!

[JackFoo]

IBM isn't a car, but even if you call it a "car", look at their Deskstar (or rather Deathstar) flop a couple of years back. I haven't bought IBM in quite a long time, that said even IBM doesn't create every component, sure there is an IBM logo but it only means it was created for them, not always _by_ them.

Either way it's definatly OT; Just use whatever you like, if you think other managers are better (than it's your problem) than use those. I'm perfectly happy with TC the way it is, it's moto development and goals and I wouldn't like it any other way.

About the burner it seems I was mistaken there is no burner the one I thought of is a ripper, so just ask in a plugin forum or write one yourself.

The problem with such components is that they aren't small features, they are full fledged programs so even if Christian added some simple burning feature the whining wouldn't stop untill TC became another Nero.

P.S. hmm, this discussion is a complete waist of time and OT to beat; I think I'll finish here.

Cheers.

[djk]

Shouldn't we ask Christian to start a new forum? About cars

[Sam York]

Just use whatever you like, if you think other managers are better (than it's your problem) than use those. I'm perfectly happy with TC the way it is, it's moto development and goals and I wouldn't like it any other way.

About the burner it seems I was mistaken there is no burner the one I thought of is a ripper, so just ask in a plugin forum or write one yourself.

The problem with such components is that they aren't small features, they are full fledged programs so even if Christian added some simple burning feature the whining wouldn't stop untill TC became another Nero.

P.S. hmm, this discussion is a complete waist of time and OT to beat; I think I'll finish here.

What I was trying to say is that even TC could be improved with this function. And like I said it before several times on this topic if it's better as a plug-in than no problem ... Btw if I knew how to program this stuff I would do it a LONG time ago myself but since I don't ...

I never tried writing cds with the Xp pro function and I wonder if you cut & paste how will you tell the writing speed & method that you wish. And how about audio cds and the posibility to make images of cds and to extract images of cds that have "tracks" inside them.

About your post scriptum, yes, this dicussion is useless only if we try to stick at the question whether or not it should be a plug-in or a built-in function. Otherwise the discussion you may consider useless but I'll bet there are some of us(look at the earlier posts on this topic) that consider it important(more or less).

P.S. Ibm is 100% original(even if it was made in "who knows where locations" the technology is the same) also like a Ferrari(without the tyres)