Can not Delete Files bigger than 4GB

[rpuerckhauer]

I can not delete a File which is 5 GB . It is locked by TotalCommander V7.02a. It can be deleted with Windows Explorer after closing TotalCommander.
If the File is in a subfolder TotalCommander can delete the subfolder with the file.
Rolf

[ghisler(Author)]

I cannot reproduce that. What file type is it? do you use any background virus scanner?

[rpuerckhauer]

I have just tested it again and I can reproduce it on Windows Vista Ultimate 32 bit (Virusscan is disabled).
On Windows XP it works fine.
The testfile only contain spaces and is about 5GB!
Rolf

[starbuckzero]

I recently noticed that on Vista 64 (all patches available January 20th installed, latest version of TC), I have several video project files on an external HDD and can't delete them with TC either, they are also locked in Explorer as long as TC is open. I checked for the handle with Process Explorer and found out it was TC, once i close it I can delete the file just fine with Windows Explorer. Didn't happen on XP, same HDD, same files.

[ghisler(Author)]

Do you get the same problem when you turn off file icons completely in Total Commander? It's in Configuration - Options - Icons.

[rpuerckhauer]

When I switch off all icons. then I can delete the file with Total Commander

[ghisler(Author)]

Ah, that's interesting. Please place the cursor on that file and choose files - associate - edit type - change icon. What is shown there (or can you get there at all)?

[rpuerckhauer]

The File is associated with Notepad.
When I log the Operations with Process Monitor you see the following:

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Change the Directory in TC to that, that contains the File (F:\_\1\test.txt > 5GB, F:\_\1\test1.txt = 5 Byte)
66793 23:30:52,6039788 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryDirectory               F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS Filter: test.txt, 1: test.txt
66797 23:30:52,6043666 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryDirectory               F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS Filter: test1.txt, 1: test1.txt
66965 23:30:52,6242087 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryDirectory               F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS Filter: test.txt, 1: test.txt
66973 23:30:52,6243318 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryOpen                    F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS CreationTime: 24.01.2008 23:00:09, LastAccessTime: 24.01.2008 23:00:09, LastWriteTime: 17.01.2008 22:47:22, ChangeTime: 24.01.2008 23:02:29, AllocationSize: 5.368.713.216, EndOfFile: 5.368.709.121, FileAttributes: A
66974 23:30:52,6243999 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                   F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS Desired Access: Read Data/List Directory, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
66976 23:30:52,6244399 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryStandardInformationFile F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS AllocationSize: 5.368.713.216, EndOfFile: 5.368.709.121, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, Directory: False
66978 23:30:52,6244564 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CloseFile                    F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS 
66983 23:30:52,6245375 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryOpen                    F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS CreationTime: 24.01.2008 23:00:09, LastAccessTime: 24.01.2008 23:00:09, LastWriteTime: 17.01.2008 22:47:22, ChangeTime: 24.01.2008 23:02:29, AllocationSize: 5.368.713.216, EndOfFile: 5.368.709.121, FileAttributes: A
66988 23:30:52,6246048 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                   F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
66992 23:30:52,6246429 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryStandardInformationFile F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS AllocationSize: 5.368.713.216, EndOfFile: 5.368.709.121, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, Directory: False
66994 23:30:52,6246649 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CloseFile                    F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS 
66996 23:30:52,6247406 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryOpen                    F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS CreationTime: 24.01.2008 23:00:09, LastAccessTime: 24.01.2008 23:00:09, LastWriteTime: 17.01.2008 22:47:22, ChangeTime: 24.01.2008 23:02:29, AllocationSize: 5.368.713.216, EndOfFile: 5.368.709.121, FileAttributes: A
66997 23:30:52,6248052 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                   F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
66999 23:30:52,6248410 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryStandardInformationFile F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS AllocationSize: 5.368.713.216, EndOfFile: 5.368.709.121, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, Directory: False
67003 23:30:52,6251694 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CloseFile                    F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS 
67005 23:30:52,6252475 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                   F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
67006 23:30:52,6252769 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryStandardInformationFile F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS AllocationSize: 5.368.713.216, EndOfFile: 5.368.709.121, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, Directory: False
67008 23:30:52,6260464 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryDirectory               F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS Filter: test1.txt, 1: test1.txt
67011 23:30:52,6261493 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryOpen                    F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS CreationTime: 24.01.2008 23:21:08, LastAccessTime: 24.01.2008 23:21:08, LastWriteTime: 24.01.2008 23:21:14, ChangeTime: 24.01.2008 23:21:14, AllocationSize: 8, EndOfFile: 5, FileAttributes: A
67012 23:30:52,6262165 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                   F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS Desired Access: Read Data/List Directory, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
67014 23:30:52,6262535 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryStandardInformationFile F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS AllocationSize: 8, EndOfFile: 5, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, Directory: False
67018 23:30:52,6262941 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CloseFile                    F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS 
67020 23:30:52,6263707 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryOpen                    F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS CreationTime: 24.01.2008 23:21:08, LastAccessTime: 24.01.2008 23:21:08, LastWriteTime: 24.01.2008 23:21:14, ChangeTime: 24.01.2008 23:21:14, AllocationSize: 8, EndOfFile: 5, FileAttributes: A
67021 23:30:52,6264367 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                   F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
67023 23:30:52,6264723 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryStandardInformationFile F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS AllocationSize: 8, EndOfFile: 5, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, Directory: False
67027 23:30:52,6265082 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CloseFile                    F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS 
67029 23:30:52,6265833 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryOpen                    F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS CreationTime: 24.01.2008 23:21:08, LastAccessTime: 24.01.2008 23:21:08, LastWriteTime: 24.01.2008 23:21:14, ChangeTime: 24.01.2008 23:21:14, AllocationSize: 8, EndOfFile: 5, FileAttributes: A
67030 23:30:52,6266462 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                   F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
67032 23:30:52,6266818 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryStandardInformationFile F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS AllocationSize: 8, EndOfFile: 5, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, Directory: False
67036 23:30:52,6267252 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CloseFile                    F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS 
67038 23:30:52,6268016 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                   F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
67039 23:30:52,6268302 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryStandardInformationFile F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS AllocationSize: 8, EndOfFile: 5, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, Directory: False
67040 23:30:52,6268405 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 ReadFile                     F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS Offset: 0, Length: 2, Priority: Normal
67041 23:30:52,6268666 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CloseFile                    F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS 
83060 23:30:55,8309457 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryDirectory               F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS Filter: test.txt, 1: test.txt
106326 23:31:00,0275636 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryDirectory              F:\_\1\test1.txt SUCCESS Filter: test1.txt, 1: test1.txt

Attemp to delete File F:\_\1\test.txt
132718 23:31:05,5931548 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 QueryOpen                   F:\_\1\test.txt  SUCCESS CreationTime: 24.01.2008 23:00:09, LastAccessTime: 24.01.2008 23:00:09, LastWriteTime: 17.01.2008 22:47:22, ChangeTime: 24.01.2008 23:02:29, AllocationSize: 5.368.713.216, EndOfFile: 5.368.709.121, FileAttributes: A
133682 23:31:05,6437882 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                  F:\_\1\test.txt  SHARING VIOLATION Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a
134084 23:31:05,6563951 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                  F:\_\1\test.txt  SHARING VIOLATION Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Read Control, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a
135383 23:31:05,7055271 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                  F:\_\1\test.txt  SHARING VIOLATION Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Read Control, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a
136467 23:31:05,7686805 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                  F:\_\1\test.txt  SHARING VIOLATION Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Read Control, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a
137044 23:31:05,8303578 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                  F:\_\1\test.txt  SHARING VIOLATION Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Read Control, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a
139321 23:31:05,8927769 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                  F:\_\1\test.txt  SHARING VIOLATION Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a
140116 23:31:06,4083778 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                  F:\_\1\test.txt  SHARING VIOLATION Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Read Control, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a
140117 23:31:06,4699622 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                  F:\_\1\test.txt  SHARING VIOLATION Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Read Control, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a
140120 23:31:06,5324423 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                  F:\_\1\test.txt  SHARING VIOLATION Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Read Control, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a
140121 23:31:06,5947604 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                  F:\_\1\test.txt  SHARING VIOLATION Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Read Control, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a
140122 23:31:06,6572154 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                  F:\_\1\test.txt  SHARING VIOLATION Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a
140700 23:31:07,1727402 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                  F:\_\1\test.txt  SHARING VIOLATION Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Read Control, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a
142629 23:31:07,2343356 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                  F:\_\1\test.txt  SHARING VIOLATION Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Read Control, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a
143734 23:31:07,2968316 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                  F:\_\1\test.txt  SHARING VIOLATION Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Read Control, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a
143911 23:31:07,3592086 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                  F:\_\1\test.txt  SHARING VIOLATION Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Read Control, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a
145596 23:31:07,4215455 TOTALCMD.EXE 5808 CreateFile                  F:\_\1\test.txt  SHARING VIOLATION Desired Access: Read Attributes, Delete, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a

It seems that TC open the File (Line 67005), but never close it.

[ghisler(Author)]

Well, TC itself is NOT opening the file (why should it?), but some shell extension or DLL in the process of TC may be doing that:
1. The icon handler (you didn't answer my question about the change icon dialog)
2. A custom columns plugin
3. You may be using tooltips (hint windows), which use Explorer shell extensions and TC plugins
4. A background virus scanner trying to scan the file

It's really difficult to say from here what exactly is opening the file...

[rpuerckhauer]

When I use Custom Columns Mode to display a Column with the value [=tc.versionstring] then I cannot delete the file. When switching back to a TC Standard view like full mode, then I can delete the file.
I think, the problem must be in the routine for displaying the Version String!

[DrShark]

Content plugins often prevent to delete files. Good solution - to use Unlocker or ForceDel.

[ghisler(Author)]

I will check that - maybe Windows VersionInfo functions cannot handle files >4GB since it's impossible to run such large EXE files too...

[ghisler(Author)]

I wonder whether you can see any difference in TC 7.03 now. I'm now requesting the version information only for files <4GB.

[rpuerckhauer]

With TC 7.03 running in Vista without SP1 I can now delete the file, which is not possible with TC 6.02.
With Vista SP1 I can delete the file with TC 7.02 and TC 7.03, so MS perhaps have solved this problem with Vista SP1.

[ghisler(Author)]

That's both good news, thanks for trying it!